You're putting insulation under the slab when it's poured correct? Otherwise your sidewall below grade insulation is literally doing nothing.
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Ahh I see that now. Only other thing I'd say from my reading is that the air will condense against the warmer surface, which would either be the batts of insulation or the inside of the foam (in the winter), if it's going to condense at all. If it doesn't get too humid inside though, it should be able to dry to the inside as drywall is a class 3 vapor barrier even when painted. It's when you encapsulate both sides of the wall that you really run the risk of getting damage inside. I'm thinking for my shop I'll either do faced batts, which have a class 2 vapor retarder, or unfaced and 6 mil poly as my pockets aren't deep enough to cool a pole barn in the summer with no exterior foam. Thinking I'll tape the building wrap on it as well to keep any wind blown moisture from finding its way in. That's where your foam board will help if you sealed all the nooks and crannies, supposedly (from what I've read) air moving through the wall assembly is the biggest source of moisture intrusion and the vapor barrier stuff trails it by a bit.
I agree, that sounds like a great plan! I did.t get a good view of the housewrap to see how well it was taped, but as you stated, the foam board, foam, and soon to be caulked gaps and seams with air seal the building. I will caulk all the posts to the foam board, the lumber that buts to each other, everything that I cant foam TBH.
Everything I read is exactly what you stated, air movement is the leading cause of the moisture, and heat loss, so I am concentrating on the air sealing.
Just received notification the concrete crew will be here Monday to prep, and pouring on Wednesday, of this coming week. I have a few things to wrap up, I am fine tuning the stone, the vapor barrier. In my infinite idiocy, I had 1 inch too much stone in there, so I am scaping some off to ensure I get 5 inches of concrete and not 3.5-4". I am using string line and my transit, but the issue lies in how I was reading the transit. I have this one Hitli and it beeps when you are within 1.25" or so, and I didn't pay enough attention to where I was at, and I put my self to high. I got 5/8 of the stone fixed last night, I'll finish it tonight. I am now 4.75" to 5", you can't be exact due to the shape of the stone.
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Great news and an update! Concrete is in, and is getting polished as I type. Saw cuts still need to be done, but by the end off the business day it'll be complete. Pictures to come!
Here are the pictures I promised! I am currently at Learnerville Speedway camping all weekend for the Firecracker 100, right at trackside.
Here you can see the yellow vapor barrier I laid down, along with the wire that is all tied together. You'll notice the grade pins from the concrete crew also.
The guys laid down some 1/4" luan so they can run over everything with the concrete buggy. Here the have the first truck and the second going in. Total was 28 yards.
I met all the trucks on the paved road in my gold crat to escort them back to the site, as their GPS was taking them somewhere weird on the mountain. The first truck was 15 minutes late. Once here, the drivers got back there fine, it was tight, but the ground was hard and I limbed up some trees for clearance.
Here you can see the yellow vapor barrier I laid down, along with the wire that is all tied together. You'll notice the grade pins from the concrete crew also.
The guys laid down some 1/4" luan so they can run over everything with the concrete buggy. Here the have the first truck and the second going in. Total was 28 yards.
I met all the trucks on the paved road in my gold crat to escort them back to the site, as their GPS was taking them somewhere weird on the mountain. The first truck was 15 minutes late. Once here, the drivers got back there fine, it was tight, but the ground was hard and I limbed up some trees for clearance.
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Last bit of pics. Once and while all the concrete was buggied in, they raked, power screed, floated, all that good stuff. They had the tools I would have had to rent, so I'm glad I didn't do this one!
Here you can see the results of the polish, the floor looks great and is FLAT! These guys have a great word of mouth rep and I'm glad the were referred to me.
The last few.
Th white/grey powder is the dust from the saw cuts. I'll wash though out next week when I return home. Now, I just wait impatiently for it to cure so I can seal it and put some stuff in there! I still have to run power, finish the foam, insulate, etc., so this thread is far from done!
Here you can see the results of the polish, the floor looks great and is FLAT! These guys have a great word of mouth rep and I'm glad the were referred to me.
The last few.
Th white/grey powder is the dust from the saw cuts. I'll wash though out next week when I return home. Now, I just wait impatiently for it to cure so I can seal it and put some stuff in there! I still have to run power, finish the foam, insulate, etc., so this thread is far from done!
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Just for fun, here is my current situation.
Hopefully the rain holds off enough to get 3 nights of racing in, along with the afterparty!
Hopefully the rain holds off enough to get 3 nights of racing in, along with the afterparty!
It's a good time there, I have a buddy that lives a stone throw away from it. A few years ago went there during my birthday weekend, followed by a gentlemen's club
Those concrete buggies are slick. Do not see them around here and they look like they might be useful for tight areas or having to transfer product like they were doing. Wonder if they can be adapted to do other chores?
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