I don't know if I qualify as "converted" since I'm using the ES-12. On the road with good airflow I'm getting 38* on a 80* humid day. In traffic it creeps up to 40*-45* which demonstrates how poorly these cars direct air over the condenser. I'm using the complete original 3.8 set up except for an aluminum V-8 radiator with 160* stat. That thing cools very well.