Torque and HP are not the same. Anyway you come on here asking which cam you should run then you turn around and come off like a know it all. Do your research I been drag racing for years I know from experience what things should and shouldn't do. No sh*t a 11 second car shouldnt have a 1.9 60 again as stated the 60ft determines et. Torque gets you moving and HP pulls you threw they are to different things. But yes torque still does play a factor but more on the entail start.
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Yea the motor in signature went 4 passes after trans sh*t the bed. All in the 11.20's with 60fts rangeing from 1.79-.89 tell me about a car not working. That said a 11's car can have almost a 1.9 60Smokes442 said:
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Now why would you target a noob, do you think there stupid because there new here
, thats childish, I won't argue with you, Heck i even agreed on some of your statements, i'm sure in time i'll hear the ones to look out for as target'ers & i'm pretty sure your name is in there, If you think torque just snaps you at of the gate & does nothing more then thats your opinion, you ventured into my thread & replied, then the next repply you come off as a school teacher, I don't need schooling, I can't beleive you'de get so bent out of shape & more or less call me "stupid" because i ask about cam choices & i'm a noobie, your rediculous. Do me a favor, if your going to play that way, stay away from my post thank you.
Anyway my names not on that list why you where apparently typing I edit that post and removed that shitty statement and it also registered what you where saying and posted a few more post. Never said because your a noob you don't know sh*t. But let's just get along a teach each other a thing or 2. HP and torque do play hand and hand I might be wrong but don't believe I am torque is the first thing to come into play.Smokes442 said:chevy2480 said:
Now why would you target a noob, do you think there stupid because there new here
Ok, I look at it this way, Lets just do it like this, We take 2 vehicles the same make model, for instance, i'll say 2 twin 78 blazers, 2wd. 1/2 ton, They are both identicle, same trans/gears/tires even the color, we weigh them & make sure they weigh within 5 lbs. of each other. Now 1 has a 350 4br. with 245 hp & 305 ft. lb. torque, the other has a 400 4br., it has 245 hp & 365 ft. tq., now we know the extra torque is in the CI increase, but the HP is rated the same, remember most of those 400s where rated just as low on HP #s as the 350s in that era, even lower. What blazer will run faster from beginning to end.
The reason i use this as an example is i had a 78 blazer 2wd. 400, it was a stocker, there wasn't a stock 350 around that in a truck/blazer that would touch it (stock vs. stock), but like i will say, thats just my opinion, not that it means anything. Thats why most love CI, its not so much the HP, its the added torque, thats what slams you back in the seat & "keeps you there"
The reason i use this as an example is i had a 78 blazer 2wd. 400, it was a stocker, there wasn't a stock 350 around that in a truck/blazer that would touch it (stock vs. stock), but like i will say, thats just my opinion, not that it means anything. Thats why most love CI, its not so much the HP, its the added torque, thats what slams you back in the seat & "keeps you there"
Ok in the beginning I would say the 400 would be better off the line but naturally I would say the 350 would be the fastest. I say this be cause a 350 stock would naturally turn more rpm and mostlikely make its peak HP at a higher rpm. Where the 400 would peaks early in the rpm range thus limiting it's ability to pull as hard further down the track. But was the cam stock or has it been changed at one point idk. By you saying there wasn't a 350 around that would touch it would leave me to think it was. Again this is where variances come into plAy cam choose heads etc now build a 350 and 400 with same cam and everything I would go with the 400 being faster. That's why most choose a cAm that has a good rpm range and torque. The motor needs a cam that is capable of pulling for a specific purpose. Thus circle cams 3/4 cams 1/4 mile cams. Every cam will yield you different results. On another note I have built 3 identical motors not one of them ran the same in the same car. Ranged from 12.40-13.00. Same trans rear and driver carb etc. IMO it's whatever a motor feels like doing. My buddies dad has a 427 abc in his 68 camaro dynoed 482rwhp and the fastest it went is 11.99 go figure.Smokes442 said:Ok, I look at it this way, Lets just do it like this, We take 2 vehicles the same make model, for instance, i'll say 2 twin 78 blazers, 2wd. 1/2 ton, They are both identicle, same trans/gears/tires even the color, we weigh them & make sure they weigh within 5 lbs. of each other. Now 1 has a 350 4br. with 245 hp & 305 ft. lb. torque, the other has a 400 4br., it has 245 hp & 365 ft. tq., now we know the extra torque is in the CI increase, but the HP is rated the same, remember most of those 400s where rated just as low on HP #s as the 350s in that era, even lower. What blazer will run faster from beginning to end.
The reason i use this as an example is i had a 78 blazer 2wd. 400, it was a stocker, there wasn't a stock 350 around that in a truck/blazer that would touch it (stock vs. stock), but like i will say, thats just my opinion, not that it means anything. Thats why most love CI, its not so much the HP, its the added torque, thats what slams you back in the seat & "keeps you there"
If an engine makes more torque at any given rpm than another engine it will also have more horsepower. Therefore you could word it as it's not horsepower that pulls you at the top end, it's just having a more torque at that rpm range. There really isnt any reason to get too caught up in a number that can't be measured. Especially when you have too many variables from one dyno to another, and different correction factors. No one uses a dyno to tell how fast they will be.
Well said my friend. Natuarally they go hand and hand but are two different things on their own. These where the points I was trying to get across.jrm81bu said:
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