But, it sounds like he's a business man, so unless you offer 2k for the alleged 302, he probably ain't going for it. An A-body is a lot of car for that little engine to pull. Seems pointless to me....
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Yeah, certainly wouldn't be my first choice for a Chevelle. They were meant for road course in a light car.
Greetings DinoSport & all; I'll start with, "that will be a tough way to make a buck"?? With that said may I ramble? My first engine a 283" bored .125" thou to 4"s & the 3" crank make 301 inches or if ya want a call it a 302 as GM did that's fine. That was 1963, 55 years ago. And the GM version your thinking about is 50 years old. I'll compare the scenario with someone in 1959 thinking about buying a Ford flathead produced in 1946.
Flash to the summers of 68-69 (forget the damn war), I had 3 buddies with Z28's & I would hunt the others as a afternoon treat for my L78 rat. They were cheap for GM to make & they (GM) would advertise them to the max. And it paid off big as they sold thousands in 69. They were like dog hair & since they were quicker than most of the so called (hyd lifter) muscle cars of the day, were great bang for the buck. One of my favorite memories (summer of 69) a young guy (I was an old guy even then 23) right of of high school got a new Z & promptly put headers on & a bigger carb (yes the 780 wasn't up to his needs?) & beat some low revving (hyd lifters) heaver cars. So he wanted to chomp on a big ole' 396 (yes 396 was considered big back then). Only he didn't know what a L78 was! I may have not mentioned that fact. I got a tank of gas out of the race. Even back then my usual bet was $5 bucks. Most of the time I got paid & many times made a new friend. Now my max bet is a beer as too many of you young guys are faster? The only races I remember seeing tail lights were to L72 rats, another friend & some guys out of Canada. Both driving yellow 67 Chevelles with transplanted previously mentioned L72's. And one Yenko after I put a hole shot on him & blew my clutch on the 1 2 shift. If memory serves that was clutch 6th in three years. As I was one of the few that would Full power shift that Rat of mine at 7300 (second edition L-88 cam). Oh the stock L78 cam was only good to 6900-7000 off the show room floor. Take care Ole' Bob.
Flash to the summers of 68-69 (forget the damn war), I had 3 buddies with Z28's & I would hunt the others as a afternoon treat for my L78 rat. They were cheap for GM to make & they (GM) would advertise them to the max. And it paid off big as they sold thousands in 69. They were like dog hair & since they were quicker than most of the so called (hyd lifter) muscle cars of the day, were great bang for the buck. One of my favorite memories (summer of 69) a young guy (I was an old guy even then 23) right of of high school got a new Z & promptly put headers on & a bigger carb (yes the 780 wasn't up to his needs?) & beat some low revving (hyd lifters) heaver cars. So he wanted to chomp on a big ole' 396 (yes 396 was considered big back then). Only he didn't know what a L78 was! I may have not mentioned that fact. I got a tank of gas out of the race. Even back then my usual bet was $5 bucks. Most of the time I got paid & many times made a new friend. Now my max bet is a beer as too many of you young guys are faster? The only races I remember seeing tail lights were to L72 rats, another friend & some guys out of Canada. Both driving yellow 67 Chevelles with transplanted previously mentioned L72's. And one Yenko after I put a hole shot on him & blew my clutch on the 1 2 shift. If memory serves that was clutch 6th in three years. As I was one of the few that would Full power shift that Rat of mine at 7300 (second edition L-88 cam). Oh the stock L78 cam was only good to 6900-7000 off the show room floor. Take care Ole' Bob.
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283's were 265's bored .125" over. Boring it .250" over seems excessive.
Vanrah may not have been following acceptated std practices at the time.
Doug; Please read my post above. Back in the early 60's, NO one (OK Few) would de-stroke a 327 to a to make a 301-302. Most every body wanted MORE cubic inches. A 327 has a 4 inch bore from the factory. A 283 has a 3.875" bore & was the most common way to make the usual 301. Correct me if I'm wrong but 2.02 I, 1.60 E double hump heads didn't arrive until 1965? Hence the 375-327 Fi, 365-327 Holley 600, 350-327 L79*, 290-302 Holley 780, 370 & 360 HP 350" Lt-1 and the last one I remember (?) the 350 HP -350" (1972?). All these engines have a 4" bore only the stroke varied. Take care Ole' Bob.
Ps: Greetings Ungn, Few tried to bore a 265 a 1/4" (.250") inch. I'm not saying it wasn't done. Most used a late 50's & early 60's 283 blocks. They had plenty of meat. And I don't remember what year my block was, My brain is picked for the night.
Ps: Greetings Ungn, Few tried to bore a 265 a 1/4" (.250") inch. I'm not saying it wasn't done. Most used a late 50's & early 60's 283 blocks. They had plenty of meat. And I don't remember what year my block was, My brain is picked for the night.
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Essentially, yes. The pistons were available and some blocks would take it. When the 327 came on the scene the hit and miss blocks were no longer a variable. 283 crank in a 327 block. The 4x3 has been done a bunch of ways. Not sure a 265 block would go that big but I'd never say never.
My dad had a '56 Chevy he bored to 3.875 and put a Duntov Solid lifter cam in it and raced in the specific "stock class" that '55-56 Chevy's ran in (in 1959). Supposedly you could get a solid cam in a 265 so he told people "this is it". When he beat the 3 time track champion by a car length, the guy threatened to pay to "tear him down" if he ever came back, so he took his one drag racing trophy and never went back to the track. He still has the trophy.
As it turned out the "track champion" was cheating also.
As it turned out the "track champion" was cheating also.
They were. .125" over 283 block and a 3" stroke crank. Made a 301.59 or something but it was the same combo.
Ungn, BracketChevy & all; Ungn is your dad older then me, 72 here. The reason I ask is about 1962 when I was building that first engine (previously mentioned 301), 265 blocks were shunned. After destroying my baby (301) with a dropped valve I salvaged what I could & punched a 265" out to 292" (cheaper). Max recommended by my preferred machine shop. So you math guys, check my memory but I seem to recall 3.934 finish bore?? And a 265 was 3.75" (?) bore to start, so machinist removed .1875". And that was a common combination if ya couldn't find good 283" block. I feel like a time warp, Ole' Bob.
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