Fellow New Yorker's, looks like the party might over for us

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Cuomo is a car guy. He has a GTO and his brother has a Firebird. Because of him, 25 years and older is emissions exempt. He grew up not far from me and he was "one of the guys". Just because he thinks he is God's gift to women doesn't make him all bad.
 
Cuomo is a car guy. He has a GTO and his brother has a Firebird. Because of him, 25 years and older is emissions exempt. He grew up not far from me and he was "one of the guys".
I understand his being a "car guy" kept this from being signed into law. Although I thought his brother was a Mopar (Super Bee) owner. Learn something new every day!
 
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This will probably get removed but needs to be said.

"Elections have consequences"


New Yorker's know what Cuomo did with the SAFE act and still reelected him. This was a matter of time, Hochul is just Cuomo in a dress. I would like to know the total number of illegals that are living in the districts of the sponsors of this law. Notice they are doing NOTHING to address that.
New York politicians especially in the Western New York area know damn well that when they associate their name with "Keeping the Bills in Buffalo" and they are guaranteed reelection to office. Sure works in Erie County. Funny how a new stadium always floods the "news" cycle during a heated election cycle.


Really think before you vote folks.
I'm climbing down from my soap box now!
Hate to say it, but I do admit - we are along for the ride here in upstate. It's about as close to taxation without representation as can be found in union. FWIW, I don't blame Cuomo or Hochul - down state elects them and they do what downstate wants. I would too.

With that in mind though, I truly love my home and my area. The snow and change of the seasons are more than tolerable, but I know why people leave. I moved my son to NC this past weekend coincidentally lol.


Regarding this law/edict, we'll see how the enforcement goes.
 
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A few peeps earlier in the thread beat me to the punch but i blame these a-h0les with their late model cars that are"tuned" to backfire while revving or on downshifts/upshifts. Guy by me has a blue bmw m3 that im positive is the reason for the people in my area going on the ring app to complain about gunshots cause it definetly could be mistaken for gunshots by someone not familiar with gunfire. They are annoying and super distracting while you're driving. Why not target them specifically. Sounds like a problem that police brass could handle at the precinct level. My car isn't the problem.
 
With that in mind though, I truly love my home and my area. The snow and change of the seasons are more than tolerable, but I know why people leave.
Not exactly your area, but the sentiment I understand.

Had a camp off-grid, hand built, up in the Adirondacks. Had nice view of Santanoni Peak. Had to hump it in with snowshoes a couple miles off the road in winter. The quiet, the stars, the seasons.

There's a lot of times lately I really miss those seasons and that snow. I'm sorely tempted to try buying acreage somewhere berkshires/white mtns/catskills/adirondacks in the next couple years.
 
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I have found that if you do not speed or do burn outs and have all of your lights working the police will leave classics, hot rods etc. alone in my part of NY. Large gatherings etc. they will sit and watch those leaving and I am glad they are there. I have seen one to many idiots have a few and leave only to get pulled over a mile or two down the road. Also seen the fool do a burn out down a two lane road into a guard rail on the opposite side of the road while leaving. The visible police car stops 90% of this. Never seen one pulled over for sound, tint etc.

I suspect this will become another tool used to get the idiots that push it to far.
 
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Also omitted from my last reply is this distinction:

If you read section 31(B) which discusses motor vehicles, it differs from sections 31-(a) and 31-(b) which talk about motorcycles.

In the motor vehicle section. It plainly and clearly omits a penalty regarding use, and only covers 'sell, offer for sale, or install'..... in the motorcycle one it lists '[or use]'....again, clear distinction.

So, there's that, for whatever it's worth. Make of it what you will.

Piss poor bill pushed by activists what don't know their head from their @$$holes, except that both full of $hit and spew vile noxious content nobody wants. But, thankfully, they're so stupid they left all those loopholes for you guys.


Thank you for all the handy info(readers see page 1 for both of CK's posts). It does appear that I overreacted. There were a bunch of articles that came out when this was announced and they were all basically cookie cutter articles that news outlets were basically copying and pasting from each other. This article was different, having quotes from lawmakers that sounded awful


"it will expressly prohibit the sale or installation of devices to increase the sound of a muffler on a motor vehicle or motorcycle and increase fines for such modifications from $150 to $1,000.

Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins, Senator Shelley Mayer and their colleagues in both the Senate and Assembly passed the SLEEP Act, sponsored by Senator Andrew Gounardes and Assembly member Bill Magnarelli."


To me that read like a death sentence. Granted that article turned out to be from June so it may have been modified since.

All in all if what was posted by CK80 is true, this Bill is better than it is good. Because the real problem is not us for the most part. It's these guys:

-20-26 years old(shame on them if they're a day older)

-Live at moms. Dress like sh*t.

-Can't afford a practical daily and summer car/sports car/hot rod so they get 2007 BMW or Audi. Maybe a Ford Fusion

-The high end kids have Subaru's or Ford Focus RS's(still live at moms and probably always will)

-Slam it, straight pipe it, put obnoxious head lights in it. Drive around like an idiot terrorizing neighborhoods.


And on top of that these cars are dailys for them. 7 Days a week at all hours just being annoying as f***. I drive my Monte Carlo as much as I can as long as the weather allows and at best that = 800 miles a year. It doesn't have nearly the same impact as a young person driving 10-14 thousand miles a year.
 
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I would welcome a law like that in Michigan as long as it focused on motorcycles only. I despise Harleys with straight pipes.


That's a huge beef for me too.

My biggest problem with those is they aren't going anywhere or doing anything productive. You can't bring home a gallon of milk and a box of cereal in a Harley. You're just out being annoying.

We have a very large back yard for the suburbs and I do bonfires back there and were also behind a long, busy road. When there's loud bikes you can hear them for MILES. I can count the red lights they've hit and estimate the distance and it's ridiculous how far away you can hear these things at night.
 
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