have I over cammed this engine?

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So a few months ago I got my block and crank back from the machine shop and decided to build a good torquey sbc (no I'm not a purist and yes its going in an Oldsmobile body) anyways I had all my stuff picked out I wanted from Summit and that just didnt happen so a few weeks later I literally threw a Jegs catalog @ this block I got tired of trying to match heads,cam and intake and decided to just wing it :shock: So my point is I just now today found a cool calculator on KB pistons website that gives dynamic compression,my dynamic compression is 9.226 My static compression is 10.941
the cam is a BM2 from lunati .284/.458 symmetrical do you guys think this is doable or do I need a cam that is a little longer in closing on the intake? ohh heres a pic becuse everybody loves pics 😀


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One of those days. I just tried to remove that photo because it was so small and I just deleted my entire album :evil:
 
if you still have brakes you haven't over cammed it :twisted:
 
What heads are you using? Was the block decked at all? Not trying to knock your math, but was gasket thickness, piston height and whether you have reliefs/flat/domed pistons taken into account too?
 
I just looked up your specs
Hydraulic, good idle. Good low end torque and horsepower. Works well with stock stall converter.

•Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 284/284
•Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 218/218
•Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .458/.458
•LSA/ICL: 110/106
•Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd
•RPM Range: 1500-5200

you should be fine there is nothing crazy going on here 8)
 
I don't think you have over cam the engine but this is my 2cents worth, In my engine static compression is 12.9:1 and run it on the street with a cam that @ .050 int 270 and ext 270 but my engine is a combo.
 
G-Body_Vet said:
What heads are you using? Was the block decked at all? Not trying to knock your math, but was gasket thickness, piston height and whether you have reliefs/flat/domed pistons taken into account too?

The math was done for me http://www.kb-silvolite.com/calc.php heads are vortec 64cc, block was not decked, gasket thickness is .035, piston head volume 5 cc


larryo454 said:
I don't think you have over cam the engine but this is my 2cents worth, In my engine static compression is 12.9:1 and run it on the street with a cam that @ .050 int 270 and ext 270 but my engine is a combo.

Its not the static compression I was wondering about it was the dynamic.Larry what degree ABDC does your intakes close?


excerpt from http://www.empirenet.com/pkelley2/DynamicCR.html

:Why it matters: A 355 engine with a 9:1 static CR using a 252 cam (110 LSA, 106 ICL) has an intake closing point of 52º ABDC and produces a running CR (DCR) of 7.93. The same 9:1 355 engine with a 292 cam (having an intake closing point of 72º ABDC) has a DCR of 6.87, over a full ratio lower. It appears that most gas engines make the best power with a DCR between 7.5 and 8.5 on 91 or better octane. The larger cam's DCR falls outside this range. It would have markedly less torque at lower RPM primarily due to low cylinder pressures, and a substantial amount of reversion back into the intake track. Higher RPM power would be down also since the engine would not be able to fully utilize the extra A/F mixture provided by the ramming effect of the late intake closing. To bring the 292 cam's DCR up to the 7.5 to 8.5:1 desirable for a street engine, the static CR needs to be raised to around 10:1 to 11.25:1. Race engines, using high octane race gas, can tolerate higher DCR's with 8.8:1 to 9:1 a good DCR to shoot for. The static CR needed to reach 9:1 DCR, for the 292 cam mentioned above, is around 12:1.
This lowering of the compression ratio, due to the late closing of the intake valve, is the primary reason cam manufactures specify a higher static compression ratio for their larger cams: to get the running or dynamic CR into the proper range.

All that I have been reading this evening points out the need for high octane fuel in a "race" engine if yor DCR is 9 or better
 
If you really have 10.9 compression then you definitely didn't over cam it. If anything you under cammed it. By a lot!
 
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