Isn't GM working on something that'll work with the eCOPO? When/if it goes on the market you'll just need to find the money.
Hey GM, You're Not Fooling Me
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I believe there are a few things at work here in a very interrelated way:
A few weeks ago I traded-in my 2004 GMC Envoy at 229k because transmission was starting to go and to me it wasn't worth the trouble and $4k to get it replaced ... I got a 2009 GMC Acadia and I am struggling with the driver's seat.
The Envoy? It was a base model so I had 4-way manual seat (fore/aft and seatback angle) with manual lumbar support, I sometimes had 14-hour days behind the wheel with no discomfort.
The Acadia? I have a 8-way power seat but no lumbar support (my trim package doesn't qualify for lumbar), it's narrower, and I'm still trying to figure-out how to adjust the seat so I don't bop my head against the forward-angled headrest every time I hit a bump.
Moral of the story?
I could write to GM and complain about how in 15 years I think the seat design has gone backward (base model in 2004 had manual lumbar support so why isn't it standard by now? and what's up with the headrests?) but are they really going to listen to a guy who has purchased from them only twice in 16 years?
... and someone mentioned how good the GMT800 platform was. I agree but it seems no car magazine can bear to say good things about it -- maybe the journalists get too spoiled with driving the luxury loaners all the time -- so what can GM do
- Any car company has to make money in order to stay in business so it is important to make vehicles the public "wants" (the quotes are intentional, so hang on)
- A dealership makes $$$ if they sell a brand-new vehicle but they make $$$$$$$$$ when selling a used car that has come off of lease, so it is to a dealership's advantage to lease cars
- Safe to assume that a majority of us here outright buy vehicles & take care of them for years?
A few weeks ago I traded-in my 2004 GMC Envoy at 229k because transmission was starting to go and to me it wasn't worth the trouble and $4k to get it replaced ... I got a 2009 GMC Acadia and I am struggling with the driver's seat.
The Envoy? It was a base model so I had 4-way manual seat (fore/aft and seatback angle) with manual lumbar support, I sometimes had 14-hour days behind the wheel with no discomfort.
The Acadia? I have a 8-way power seat but no lumbar support (my trim package doesn't qualify for lumbar), it's narrower, and I'm still trying to figure-out how to adjust the seat so I don't bop my head against the forward-angled headrest every time I hit a bump.
Moral of the story?
I could write to GM and complain about how in 15 years I think the seat design has gone backward (base model in 2004 had manual lumbar support so why isn't it standard by now? and what's up with the headrests?) but are they really going to listen to a guy who has purchased from them only twice in 16 years?
... and someone mentioned how good the GMT800 platform was. I agree but it seems no car magazine can bear to say good things about it -- maybe the journalists get too spoiled with driving the luxury loaners all the time -- so what can GM do
I'd also be interested in a conversion for my cars, maybe a new "tuning" business will grow out of it of making engine soundtracks to replace the silence of the electric motors. 🙂
I think it's a matter of time ... Jaguar already has a program that they'll convert classic Jaguars to electric powertrain in a way that it can be reversed and Wheeler Dealers found a firm in California that does electric conversions of classic VWs.
Gotta admit I was mildly looking forward to this reintroduction but, as usual . . . complete disappointment. And still 25mpg max but you really get 22 in an AWD gasser.
I keep buying Euro-wagons for the wife's primary that I occasionally get to have fun in [sadly, probably just bought the last one of those recently]. 3.0 Turbo Diesel, 450 lb ft, 35mpg HW, average pushes 30, actual offroad capability even without low range when you have all that torque at 1500rpm. Ours has 4-low though. Yeah, I know, most people don't even get their Ford Raptors dirty. Between the farm and the cabin we do.
Ran into an acquaintance of mine recently that has a Raptor I have NEVER seen dirty and he had custom painted this beautiful desert scene on the tailgate apparently because his truck will never actually see it. I asked him if I could go get it dirty for him and thought he might punch me . . . I probably deserved it.
My ole Gen One Tacoma rarely IS clean . . .
I keep buying Euro-wagons for the wife's primary that I occasionally get to have fun in [sadly, probably just bought the last one of those recently]. 3.0 Turbo Diesel, 450 lb ft, 35mpg HW, average pushes 30, actual offroad capability even without low range when you have all that torque at 1500rpm. Ours has 4-low though. Yeah, I know, most people don't even get their Ford Raptors dirty. Between the farm and the cabin we do.
Ran into an acquaintance of mine recently that has a Raptor I have NEVER seen dirty and he had custom painted this beautiful desert scene on the tailgate apparently because his truck will never actually see it. I asked him if I could go get it dirty for him and thought he might punch me . . . I probably deserved it.
My ole Gen One Tacoma rarely IS clean . . .
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