You can't find anything for $500 anymore. That said, nice ones here can be found for $3500. I couldn't paint my car for that here at a shop.
HOT ROD mag: G-bodies=beaters
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God, IF there is anyone with a K Car that thinks it is worth saving has got to be a few steps short of the urinal. I mean even the Turbo K Cars were throw aways... quick, fun, but still throw-aways with time bombs under the hood...
The Fox Body comment makes a little more sense, but G Body's have a lot more room to play with, being that they're full perimeter frame cars.
Still though, as I've said before, these same types of asshat "Gurus" do the entire hobby an injustice by putting down cars that essentially the last mass produced V8/ RWD platforms built... Back in the 80's and early 90's, magazines proclaimed that '68-72 A Body's were good, throw-away beaters too... along with '68-up Novas and '70-up Camaros & Firebirds... tons of good V8 engines were grenaded on purpose for "Fun" or simply tossed into the scrap heap... Pontiac, Buick, & Olds V8's were just as common as Chevy small blocks in the 80's/Early 90's... nowadays, the average price for any decent, unmolested Pontiac V8 engine is typically north of $500 and pretty scarce at that... although I also see plenty of ruined ones, left exposed or taken apart and stored half-assed for years in a wet corner someplace... sigh. The same holds true for Olds V8's, and the now very uncommon Buick V8's and Caddy's Monster V8's... again, a big thanks to those same "rags" that described them as white elephants and suggested that everybody should run a Small Block Chevy.... good, cheap engine... but no where near as much fun as an over-square V8...
Why are you guys falling for the same stuff over and over. Obviously Hot Rod magazine stands to profit in the long run by putting it in people's heads to trash more g-bodies in the short run. The parts will probably double in price over the next 5 years. 
'you must be the change you wish to see in the world' and such
People are putting g-bodies away and under car covers around here. Cadillacs are the new 'winter beaters' in my neighborhood especially mine is trashed now lol
'you must be the change you wish to see in the world' and suchPeople are putting g-bodies away and under car covers around here. Cadillacs are the new 'winter beaters' in my neighborhood especially mine is trashed now lol
My 80 malibu is my year round beater, and we get lots of snow. Maybe putting a 454 in it in the fall wasn't the best idea, but i've only slid into 1 snow bank so far....
I wouldnt necessarily call my Cutlass a beater, but i guess i do beat on it 8)
I wouldnt necessarily call my Cutlass a beater, but i guess i do beat on it 8)
Strangely, Hot Rod never learns. Many moons go there was a racing editor named CJ Baker. In his mind, if it wasn't a BB Chevy, it was crap. A reader wrote in asking how to get more power out of his stock '75 Trans Am. Baker replied: "Discard heads, block, crank, and cam. Replace with BB Chevy parts." I didn't renew my subscription for like 20 years because of that. (I subscribe now because it's less than a dollar an issue). I am older now, so I won't cancel just because of the G-body snub.
Bonnewagon said:
Hot Rod Mag sorta seems to be in that "Chevy supremacist" category, where if it isn't a 350 or a BBC, it isn't a hot rod. I'm a subscriber for 2 years now, and I think they sorta have their heads up their asses in the way that they haven't realized there is a whole world outside of just Bowties.
This whole issue was on the hemi engine, I think they give everyone a fair share. And plus, quirks like that of they do have is what gives a magazine it's personality.
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God, IF there is anyone with a K Car that thinks it is worth saving has got to be a few steps short of the urinal. I mean even the Turbo K Cars were throw aways... quick, fun, but still throw-aways with time bombs under the hood...
The Fox Body comment makes a little more sense, but G Body's have a lot more room to play with, being that they're full perimeter frame cars.
Still though, as I've said before, these same types of asshat "Gurus" do the entire hobby an injustice by putting down cars that essentially the last mass produced V8/ RWD platforms built... Back in the 80's and early 90's, magazines proclaimed that '68-72 A Body's were good, throw-away beaters too... along with '68-up Novas and '70-up Camaros & Firebirds... tons of good V8 engines were grenaded on purpose for "Fun" or simply tossed into the scrap heap... Pontiac, Buick, & Olds V8's were just as common as Chevy small blocks in the 80's/Early 90's... nowadays, the average price for any decent, unmolested Pontiac V8 engine is typically north of $500 and pretty scarce at that... although I also see plenty of ruined ones, left exposed or taken apart and stored half-assed for years in a wet corner someplace... sigh. The same holds true for Olds V8's, and the now very uncommon Buick V8's and Caddy's Monster V8's... again, a big thanks to those same "rags" that described them as white elephants and suggested that everybody should run a Small Block Chevy.... good, cheap engine... but no where near as much fun as an over-square V8...
It's called market share. The product that captures the most market share will become the dominate product, the de facto standard just like with VHS, PC, and Bluray. They won not because they were better products, but because they out marketed their rivals to become the standard. While all the GM V8s were good, SBCs were the most numerous and became the de facto standard. Now LS engines are becoming the de facto standard, also made by GM which has the most market power of all the car makers. GM has the power to make whatever they want to be the de facto standard.
Also the more common a product is, the more useful it becomes. If you owned the only fax machine in the world it would not be very useful. But the more people who own other fax machines, the more useful the one you own becomes. Engines are a bit like that with lowering the costs and increasing the supply of parts the more common and popular it is.
Drive a Ford Fairmount or Mercury Zepher, yah some Fox bodies were that bad. I remember riding in our Fairmount on back roads, I thought the dash was going to come through the windshield. Just terrible, unreliable cars.
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