how much thicker of a headgasket do i need?

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"C. Maximum allowable compression 165 pounds"....who wrote the rules?...I'd leave your engine alone and if they check ask them where does it say anything about cylinder compression in the rules...who knows what they are talking about with that rule the way they have it written....maybe they are talking about a valve spring

but you'd probably fail with the min vacuum of 20lbs at 1000 rpm....
 
pontiacgp said:
"C. Maximum allowable compression 165 pounds"....who wrote the rules?...I'd leave your engine alone and if they check ask them where does it say anything about cylinder compression in the rules...who knows what they are talking about with that rule the way they have it written....maybe they are talking about a valve spring

but you'd probably fail with the min vacuum of 20lbs at 1000 rpm....
no ive been through tech. thats how i got the 185 number. at home it was fine at about 155 and they dont check the vacuum for some reason
 
pontiacgp said:
I think you missed my point, the rules say nothing about cylinder compression
yeah but the tech guys are dicks. ive tried that angle. although i did nothing and the next week my compression was down to 175. ive still gotta pull the heads though i think a valve seal or two is messed up.
 
that's what leak down tests are for....a fast was of checking you pour a little oil down the cylinder with the low compression and if the compression increases it's the rings, if not it's the valves
 
I agree with PontiacGP that you shouldn't pull the head without first checking compression and doing a leak down all cylinders. A 10 psi drop isn's very much, you might just see that kind of variation from cylinder to cylinder. You're comparing the same cylinder right? What cylinder is tech checking? Do they check the same cylinder each time?

Those rules are tough. The 165 rule almost forces you to use a stock dished piston to keep the compression down. One idea would be to retard the cam, which would make the intake valve close later, which should lower compression. Maybe that plus a thicker gasket would be enough?

Kind of odd that the rules don't say anything about porting or head mods. If it's allowed you could open up the chambers a bit to lower compression.

Another idea would be to open up the top ring gap a bit, but that would be a power killer for sure. If tech always checks the same cylinder, you could open up the gap on that one ring just to pass tech.

Do they check tech before or after you run? If before, what if you tried over adjusting the exhaust valves just enough to bleed some compression. I wouldn't race it that way so you would need time to adjust them back.
 
AlanB said:
I agree with PontiacGP that you shouldn't pull the head without first checking compression and doing a leak down all cylinders. A 10 psi drop isn's very much, you might just see that kind of variation from cylinder to cylinder. You're comparing the same cylinder right? What cylinder is tech checking? Do they check the same cylinder each time?

Those rules are tough. The 165 rule almost forces you to use a stock dished piston to keep the compression down. One idea would be to retard the cam, which would make the intake valve close later, which should lower compression. Maybe that plus a thicker gasket would be enough?

Kind of odd that the rules don't say anything about porting or head mods. If it's allowed you could open up the chambers a bit to lower compression.

Another idea would be to open up the top ring gap a bit, but that would be a power killer for sure. If tech always checks the same cylinder, you could open up the gap on that one ring just to pass tech.

Do they check tech before or after you run? If before, what if you tried over adjusting the exhaust valves just enough to bleed some compression. I wouldn't race it that way so you would need time to adjust them back.
i have to get it to pass one time before a race then im good for the season unless i win, qualify first, or set a track record.
 
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