Is this forged?
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I can only offer general cast vs forged tell-tales...
A cast part often shows a crisp line where the mold was separated while forged is usually a bit more muddled, and, a forged steel piece normally has a crisper clearer ring when tapped while cast is more deadened, although, the difference isn't exactly night and day. But if you run a similar ring test on a bunch of cast parts vs a bunch of the same forged pieces you may be able to tell the difference depending on your 'ear' for pitch recognition.
Really, I'd be concerned why parts I paid for weren't stamped as coming from the manufacturer I paid for regardless.
Too much Chinese garbage amd knockoff stuff these days for me to go down the unknown origin road
A cast part often shows a crisp line where the mold was separated while forged is usually a bit more muddled, and, a forged steel piece normally has a crisper clearer ring when tapped while cast is more deadened, although, the difference isn't exactly night and day. But if you run a similar ring test on a bunch of cast parts vs a bunch of the same forged pieces you may be able to tell the difference depending on your 'ear' for pitch recognition.
Really, I'd be concerned why parts I paid for weren't stamped as coming from the manufacturer I paid for regardless.
Too much Chinese garbage amd knockoff stuff these days for me to go down the unknown origin road
Looks cast to me. I relate it to pipe fittings.
Malleable iron, cast iron, cast brass, cast bronze fittings are all "cast" and have that rough finish on the outside like your picture. All forged steel fittings have a smooth finish. Forged material is much more dense
Malleable iron, cast iron, cast brass, cast bronze fittings are all "cast" and have that rough finish on the outside like your picture. All forged steel fittings have a smooth finish. Forged material is much more dense
That’s the first thing I thought when I looked at it was cast. I hopped on the internet machine and it seems like most of the Dana stuff is smooth and they mention something about a black finish. And they’re all marked spicer. I guess I’ll call the company I ordered it from tomorrow…
Point 1 is I can't recall seeing genuine spicer parts that weren't marked as theirs, and, Point 2 is that Chinese companies release products all the time where they will grade a metal to be a certain thing, but, their manufacturing methods yield an inferior product to western counterparts that bear the same grading.
Just call. Maybe even call a different company first.
Last night just first look, it looks cast. I see sand marks and mold imperfection.
The caveat to this is I worked for the company late 2000 that was making the aluminum knuckles for the Pontiac Aztec. Those were a powered metal forging and even on those pieces had a similar look in certain spots, yet no sand was ever in use. Dies were coated with heavy application of graphite mold release and would cause roughness in the original foundry release prior to finishing.
Did some research on this and pics attached.
What's interesting is on the items known as cast steel do not look much different than some that are stated as being forged. If you notice the forgings, those are smooth in fit and finish while none of the cast units are.
Pic 1. Cast Steel
Pic 2. Forged
Pic 3. Cast marketed as forged but notice the air bubbles...
Pic 4. Forged marketed as forged...
Quite frankly I'm not sure what you have. It looks cast to me and then possibly finished by a forging operation to set the spline.
Things that make you go hmmmm....
The caveat to this is I worked for the company late 2000 that was making the aluminum knuckles for the Pontiac Aztec. Those were a powered metal forging and even on those pieces had a similar look in certain spots, yet no sand was ever in use. Dies were coated with heavy application of graphite mold release and would cause roughness in the original foundry release prior to finishing.
Did some research on this and pics attached.
What's interesting is on the items known as cast steel do not look much different than some that are stated as being forged. If you notice the forgings, those are smooth in fit and finish while none of the cast units are.
Pic 1. Cast Steel
Pic 2. Forged
Pic 3. Cast marketed as forged but notice the air bubbles...
Pic 4. Forged marketed as forged...
Quite frankly I'm not sure what you have. It looks cast to me and then possibly finished by a forging operation to set the spline.
Things that make you go hmmmm....
