problems with my "new" carb

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85 Cutlass Brougham said:
Damnit, now I gotta take another pic of how I hooked it up without the bracket. It's not perfect, but it works sorta ok. Why didn't you reuse the Quadrajet? I think you told me once but I forgot. It just seems it would have been cheaper (and easier) to have it gone through for about $100-150 by a local carb shop than to have to go through all of this.

eh..I wanted to buy a carb that would work but rebuilding this one was kinda unexpected. I wanted to rebuild it myself though and I didnt think it would take this much crap to get this stuff hooked up. Plus edelbrock parts are easily accessible and what not. I figured this was a common set-up.

straight out of the summit catalog "throttle level adapters"...Edl-8036 Chevy, 1978-earlier small block. mine is 82..shouldnt matter, right? "get a throttle lever adapter when you get your new Edelbrock carb and avoid headaches hookingn up your kickdown cable"
which i looked on their website and it shows this..
edl-8036_w.jpg
 
I think it should if it is from Edelbrock. It looks like it bolts to the intake manifold and the one I have bolts to the carb. I don't know if it matters if it is a 1978 kit or not but it may because of a switch from vacuum modulated transmissions with a kickdown cable to the all-inclusive TV cable arrangement used starting after that. My car is an 85 with a 79 van Quadrajet and it had the same bellcrank as the 84 electronic Quadrajet I had in my inventory. Try to find the TCI bracket like I have as it is set up for the newer cars. If Summit does not have it, Jegs might. The part number is posted in the post with the pic in it.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=TCI-376700&N=700+115&autoview=sku
In addition, you would probably need this:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=TCI-376710&view=32&N=700+1003
 
dude............41 bucks!!!!! I feel like at this point all I need is the linkage addition really, unless the other brackets will move the tv cable that much closer or something.
85 Cutlass Brougham said:
I think it should if it is from Edelbrock. It looks like it bolts to the intake manifold and the one I have bolts to the carb. I don't know if it matters if it is a 1978 kit or not but it may because of a switch from vacuum modulated transmissions with a kickdown cable to the all-inclusive TV cable arrangement used starting after that. My car is an 85 with a 79 van Quadrajet and it had the same bellcrank as the 84 electronic Quadrajet I had in my inventory. Try to find the TCI bracket like I have as it is set up for the newer cars. If Summit does not have it, Jegs might. The part number is posted in the post with the pic in it.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=TCI-376700&N=700+115&autoview=sku
In addition, you would probably need this:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=TCI-376710&view=32&N=700+1003
 
The cable bracket moves it outboard by half an inch or so. When you get it all hooked up, you will see that the cable is at an odd angle and needs to be moved out by that 1/2 inch or so. But umm...yeah.... it's very pricey to make it all work together right. I'll beat the dead horse again and say it's partially why I went with the Quadrajet and removed the Edelbrock. I will use the Edelbrock again when I put my good new AMC 360 in my Spirit and use it to replace the Holley 750 it has now. That car does not require anything to adapt it other than some work to the fuel line.

Also, if you do not get the TV cable geometry right, you could burn up the transmission. That's worst-case scenario, but it can happen. My neighbor took a Quadrajet bellcrank and used it to fabricate the proper bracket to make his TV cable work, so that may be an option too. If you don't want to ruin the Quadrajet, just get the arm off a Dualjet as it is the same as the arm off a Quadrajet. Then again, you can make your own too if you just measure the distance from the center of the throttle shaft to the center of the linkage pin on your old carb and cut a piece of 1/8 in steel to get it right, then bolt the pin you bought from Edelbrock with the right end for the TV cable onto that and there you go. If you have the steel scrap laying around (like I do, my house looks like Sanford and Son!) it's pretty much a free solution.
 
I have scrap sheet metal laying around ,yes haha. I'll see what its gonna take. like I said everything seems to be lined up fine....the tv cable just isnt long enough, and there isnt a spot for it to connect on the linkage.
 
85 Cutlass Brougham said:
You have to buy the stud and screw it onto the bellcrank. Summit has them, here's the link:
http://store.summitracing.com/partd...N=700+4294925239+400065+1001+115&autoview=sku

yeah i bought one of those, I just couldnt find a spot for it on the linkage, not to mention the throttle cable doesnt even extend long enough. there might be a spare hole I could drill out to make large enough for the stud to go through and then just get a bracket for the TV cable that would hold it closer to the linkage?

i dont know why I thought this was a real common set up....
 
J-(Chicago) said:
I know a good qjet rebuilder :wink:
haha who knows. I might switch back eventually but if anyone can testify that the qjet isnt much harder than the edelbrock, i'll just do it myself. whats the stock cfm on the qjet? (ahem 85cutlassbrougham)

Ive been talking to people including edelbrock and they all say that the stud should fit in the lower hole in the linkage, i might be delusional. im gonna go check it again next time I go out there. I just pulled the transmission so I've got plenty of time to mess with it.
 
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