rear end grinding... good lord!

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SilverShadow87

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Dec 3, 2011
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just put 3.42s in the rear this afternoon, finished it all up an reassembled, and after being in reverse for not even a few seconds i hear ARSHSKFDSFSAKJSFHHH grinding, so i stop it... put it in drive to pull back up and it does it again, then it slowly does it in neutral..... wtf is it? its god awful and i gotta get it fixed tonight (or put my other gears back in), gotta have a car for school tomorrow!
 
Did you use the proper tools to set up the gears? Check pinion depth? Shim to .000" then add .004" to each side? Check backlash? Pinion pre-load? Check tooth contact pattern with dye? If not, very carefully put the old gears back in EXACTLY THE WAY THE WERE. Don't break the cast shims. You did make a note of what shim/bearing were for which side, right?
 
i did what i was taught to do... havent had a problem before. the shims are on the right side. now, elaborate on the pinion depth and backlash?
 
You use a pinion depth checking tool to figure what shim goes under the pinion bearing. Usually you will find it's within a thousandth or so of the stock shim and often I reuse the stock one. Then when you install the companion flange (what the drive shaft bolts to) you tighten up the nut slowly while checking with a torque wrench what the torque is to turn the pinion nut which is the pre-load of the pinion and bearings. There is a spec in the manual for a new and used set of gears/bearings. The idea is that the pinion gear is held in tension and won't deflect under driveline torque. Once that is done, the ring gear/carrier/bearings are installed, set for .000" play, and gears checked for proper backlash again a spec for new/used gears/bearings is in the manual. Dye is mixed with some gear oil and applied to the gears and when turned by hand, a pattern shows. Once proper backlash and tooth contact pattern is achieved, .004" shim is added to both sides for a total of .008" pre-load so the setting is not disturbed. Again, this holds the carrier in tension so the pinion gear torque won't move the carrier out of line. Then you double check backlash and tooth contact pattern and if satisfied, button it all up. Very rarely, in fact never, will the old carrier shims work with new gears.
 
Are you sure it did it in neutral? Standing still? Maybe it's the transmission?
 
Bonnewagon said:
Are you sure it did it in neutral? Maybe it's the transmission?
Trans is fine...never had real problems with it, did fine today on the way home in fact...
So tell me, did I waste my money on the 3.42s?
 
Not if they get installed correctly. Did you get an installation kit? Bearings, shims, dye? Don't drive like that or they will break. Ask me how I know! :shock: First time I read a factory manual I freaked at the complexity and said I don't need to follow all that crap. So I did my gear swap and got about 15 feet before the ring gear lost half it's teeth 😳 .
 
Bonnewagon said:
Not if they get installed correctly. Did you get an installation kit? Bearings, shims, dye? Don't drive like that or they will break. Ask me how I know! :shock: First time I read a factory manual I freaked at the complexity and said I don't need to follow all that crap. So I did my gear swap and got about 15 feet before the ring gear lost half it's teeth 😳 .
i didnt. lol. good lesson to be learned here apparently... tomorrow ill head to the parts store and grab a kit.
 
First, grab a factory manual and read up on what's involved. Seriously. You may just want to put the old gears back in for now. Besides, the damage may already be done.
 
Bonnewagon said:
First, grab a factory manual and read up on what's involved. Seriously. You may just want to put the old gears back in for now. Besides, the damage may already be done.
i will, tomorrow. i can go a day without the car... i think 😀 . but i popped the cover off.. no metal sheddings and the gears look fine, that was the confusing part but i suppose its also good news
 
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