Starter Issue - No Crank

[Tynan918]

'84 Monte Carlo SS...

My starter isn't cranking when I put the ignition switch in the crank position... It's how I start my car until I can afford another steering column.

I also have a bump starter button under the hood that isn't cranking the engine over... I used this to start my engine for months.

Only time I can get it to crank over and start the engine is if I jump it using a screwdriver, with the ignition switch in the on position.

I know it isn't the ignition switch because I have two of them, and 1 is brand new...same results with both.

The purple solenoid wire is getting power to it.

Used to start up just fine, until I over flooded the engine in the middle of traffic and continually kept trying to crank over the engine. My last attempt during that time, the starter continued to crank itself over on it's own for a good 30-45 seconds after I put the ignition switch back in the "OFF" position..

Had it towed home and replaced the oil and got the flooding to quit and carburetor under control...

Went to start it using the ignition switch and nothing happened...

Went to start it with the bump starter and nothing happened...

Jumped it with a screwdriver and it fired right up, but not with the bump starter or the ignition switch.

I don't trust to keep starting the engine like this as the starter may give out on me anywhere leaving me stuck and require another costly tow I can't afford...

My starter is good for a free replacement under warranty, and I'm thinking the solenoid gave out on it causing the issue I'm having now.

Anyone else think the same thing ?

Any other suggestions are considered. Thanks in advance.

 

[Tynan918]

Yep that guy is full of sh*te for sure, I hope the case goes ok man. How much did you pay if you don't mind me asking there?

8k...and after looking at the VIN# this is a SS clone built from a V6 base Monte Carlo... Not a true SS...

I paid $800 for a strong running '86 base Monte Carlo in 2011...

Not only that, but I was told the engine was a rebuilt 350 with 46,000 miles on it... Turned out to be an '80-84 305 with 305 H.O. heads with unknown mileage...

Thanks, it should go in my favor, given the right evidence...

 

[Tynan918]

Ok I hooked the new battery up and read the voltages with a multimeter on the purple wire at the end that connects to the "S" terminal on the starter and grounded at the negative battery terminal and held the "crank" position for 15 seconds or more...read 12.4 volts.

Same thing at the split and connected purple wire at the blue connector for the ignition switch...read 12.3 volts with the key in the crank position.

Verified I'm getting power from the ignition switch to the starter...

Bench tested the starter again today and it started doing exactly as it did when my carburetor flooded and started this whole starting issue...continuing to crank after I let off the key... I managed to catch it on video...

 

[Tynan918]

Going to swap out this starter for a replacement today...

I'm guessing bad battery terminal and starter solenoid ?

 

[g0thiac]

8k...and after looking at the VIN# this is a SS clone built from a V6 base Monte Carlo... Not a true SS...

I paid $800 for a strong running '86 base Monte Carlo in 2011...

Not only that, but I was told the engine was a rebuilt 350 with 46,000 miles on it... Turned out to be an '80-84 305 with 305 H.O. heads with unknown mileage...View attachment 190149View attachment 190148


Thanks, it should go in my favor, given the right evidence...

Going to swap out this starter for a replacement today...

I'm guessing bad battery terminal and starter solenoid ?

Didn't you get a new battery? And yeah if it keeps turning over after turning the key off, it's probably a defective starter.

 

[Tynan918]

Didn't you get a new battery?

Yea that's what I'm referring to, the new battery.

 

[g0thiac]

Yea that's what I'm referring to, the new battery.

Then theres no bad terminal, replace the starter and see how it is.

 

[Tynan918]

Then theres no bad terminal, replace the starter and see how it is.

No when I said bad terminal, I was referring to the old battery lol

I'm out getting the new starter now.

 

[g0thiac]

No when I said bad terminal, I was referring to the old battery lol

I'm out getting the new starter now.

For sure, bring your old one so they know which one to use, as some have straight bolt pattern or staggered.

 

[LeftLaneOnly]

cant wait to see this play out

 

[g0thiac]

cant wait to see this play out

*in French SpongeBob announcer voice*
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