To be honest though, most G bodies were garbage too in their stock form. The G body's redeeming value is that it is old now, and it came with engines that were members of good families. This means they can be swapped for older engines that have good potential. Honestly though, the non turbo V6's, and 305, 267, 307, 260, 265, 301, etc. engines are pretty awful in a car this size. (The 265 is a b*st*rd Pontiac used in Buicks at the turn of the 80's, and the 267 is the same idea in a Chevy as the 260 is an Olds). Also, the rear axles that were not 8.5's suck, and all of the transmissions had a spotty reliability record in stock form, save the TH350C. Plus, the gearing was set up for highway fuel economy at the expense of all else. This is why almost none of the cars on this site have been left stock. Most have at least had their engine and rear gearing changed, and many have had either a transmission swap or have had their stock transmission reworked. Those that are still stock are usually either owned by people too broke to change it, or by people who are in the process of gathering the necessary parts to fix what GM did wrong all those years ago. Yes, some of us have G body beaters that stay stock, but most of us have a modified one as well.