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[1986montecarlols]

Yeah

I have nothing on my record other then running a red light is all. I was looking into going into grad school and possibly law school. If I was found guilty of this even after I got my lawyer would this really ruin my career choices at all? Me and my dad are in a great argument at the moment. He says how I hate my brother so much for the things he does, drinking and driving offenses, how hes street smart im not, how he respects him more then I do, and on and on and on. I dont get along with my family for many reason I am not stating on here. I dont fit in is all. I still cant come to grips how I messed up so easily. I guess getting this lawyer would be the best thing to do. My dad keeps saying how I made the choice to allow him to drive, its not his fault its mine and I have to pay the price. Well if my brother was normal, didnt get drunk all the time I wouldnt be in this mess, yes they list this as a misdemeanor, I feel sick even talking about this to be honest. I feel like my future is being flushed down the drain. I just want out of my family right now, my mom had a stroke a few months ago, and she was the only one I sometimes got along with. I am a totally different guy outside of my house. I dont even act the same. Around my family I may seem like a prick cause i dont understand they way of life they live.

 

[85 Cutlass Brougham]

Blah, Blah, Blah....BULLSHIT. Get a lawyer. I am an honest guy myself, but if I ever got in legal trouble that possibly threatened my future I would get a lawyer too. To me (and not really knowing your dad) it just sounds like your dad loves to be right all the time and is not acting out of love for his son. As for it affecting your future, that is a nebulous question at best. Yes it shows poor judgment, but it's a minor mistake and not intended to cause harm. It's not a drug offense, theft, murder, DUI, etc. Trust me, if lawyers can get people off of some of these thing, a good one can probably get you a good deal too. When I had a car accident a few years back, I got an attorney before I got a doctor. It was the best thing I could have done as without her my medical bills would not have been covered. Just get a lawyer.

 

[1986montecarlols]

yeah

thats the problem, My dad always wants to be right even if its something in my field of expertese, history/philosophy/political science or english. I too like to be right all the time. Dont we all. Yes I do cut my brother down quite often. Who would not, hes almost 27 layed off from a place that makes transmission parts for some of the big car companies in america. He sits in the basement all ****ing day and night. He drinks everynight. He drinks when I drive him anywhere he has to go yet he b*tches and I get yelled at if I dont drive him places. I cant leave home because I make 220 dollars every 2 weeks. Even getting a lawyer is going to hurt me. Im am seeing my brothers lawyer tomarrow at 11 am. I will post what he says on here for ya to read cutty. Whats your name by the way you told me once before. Mines nate.
The other issues at hand are im going for my masters, almost have my bachelors. My dad got an associates, hes retired now and is broke off his *ss. My brother eats much of the food he buys when he goes on his drinking fun every night, nothin like a 3 am snack or 2 I guess. Give me a break lol. I at times talk about how I will succeed, I tell him to go to school etc. My dad will get on me about cutting him down you name it. Back to the story at hand thats important though. My brother is paying 650 dollars to get out of his big **** up, defective equip for the headlights even though they are fine, and the suspended liscence., so I expect id pay half of that becuase my crime is half of what his is. How do lawyers charge, the crime and how difficult it is to win, and lastly will my lawyer most likely get this erased if I pay enough? I will find out tomarrow but if someone can calm my nerves a little bit more id appreciate it. My fuel pump issue and having to stay home on my day off is driving me ****ing crazy. :!: :!: :!:

 

[pontiacgp]

you said you "got a ticket for allowing a suspended liscency to drive my car' so how does that change into a misdemeanor?...what state are you in?

 

[1986montecarlols]

Im in

Michigan, one of the worst states for car laws, at least from what I can tell. I know its ridiculous,


http://www.michigan.gov/driverresponsib ... --,00.html

funny I didnt drive with a revoked liscence as it states on that page. I allowed someone to do it.

 

[pontiacgp]

here's what you probably got charged with and the fine is $500 for the first offence..on the ticket you received the section of the law that your charged with has to be indicated..

MICHIGAN VEHICLE CODE (EXCERPT)
Act 300 of 1949


257.904 Operating vehicle if license, registration certificate, or designation suspended, revoked, or denied; penalty; extending period of suspension or revocation; informing court of record and status; applicability.

Sec. 904.

(1) A person whose operator's or chauffeur's license or registration certificate has been suspended or revoked and who has been notified as provided in section 212 of that suspension or revocation, whose application for license has been denied, or who has never applied for a license, shall not operate a motor vehicle upon a highway or other place open to the general public or generally accessible to motor vehicles, including an area designated for the parking of motor vehicles, within this state.

(2) A person shall not knowingly permit a motor vehicle owned by the person to be operated upon a highway or other place open to the general public or generally accessible to motor vehicles, including an area designated for the parking of vehicles, within this state by a person whose license or registration certificate is suspended or revoked, whose application for license has been denied, or who has never applied for a license, except as permitted under this act.

(3) Except as otherwise provided in this section, a person who violates subsection (1) or (2) is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable as follows:

(a) For a first violation, by imprisonment for not more than 93 days or a fine of not more than $500.00, or both. Unless the vehicle was stolen or used with the permission of a person who did not knowingly permit an unlicensed driver to operate the vehicle, the registration plates of the vehicle shall be canceled by the secretary of state upon notification by a peace officer.

 

[1986montecarlols]

Yep

I agree, ill be meeting with the lawyer in the morning.

 

[1986montecarlols]

good

news, if my and my brothers trial dates are the same say it will cost me $100. If they are not, it will cost me $400. Hes going to get it reduced to a CI.

 

[85 Cutlass Brougham]

What is a CI?

Also, I hope it all works out for you. It may well be that you save money by having an attorney rather than going it alone. It just sux that your brother was a dumbass and didn't turn the lights on or else none of this would be an issue.

 

[1986montecarlols]

its

a civil infraction, sorry about not saying that. Well were watching deer a half mile before that if that even. He just forgot was all. Sure hes a dumb *ss though I agree to that. At first the lawyer counceled me on what to say. About being a student, broke, etc I said I doubt it will work sir so whats the price etc lol. I am thinking of going to law school. It might be a good job for me oneday.