wheel weights, opinions?

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565bbchevy said:
One thing I also so do before I have a tire balanced is after cleaning the areas where the stick on weights will go I actually use a marker and put arrows and guidelines where the weights have to go to clear my calipers(more important for the rears) I try to make it as moron proof as possible.
I actually had a Discount Tire mount my slicks with tubes once and I even had to supply the baby powder and instead of dusting the tubes they used so much that when they went to balance it they said it was moving up and down on the machine, when I tore it down there was almost half a cup of powder in one area.

Discount Tire Sucks The store here in Surprise AZ. Broke two studs on my Wifes car, And never told me about it she was driving around for two months with only 3 lug nuts on the Left Ft wheel.
I took it back and the Mgr. Acted like it was no big deal.
 
tc1959 said:
565bbchevy said:
One thing I also so do before I have a tire balanced is after cleaning the areas where the stick on weights will go I actually use a marker and put arrows and guidelines where the weights have to go to clear my calipers(more important for the rears) I try to make it as moron proof as possible.
I actually had a Discount Tire mount my slicks with tubes once and I even had to supply the baby powder and instead of dusting the tubes they used so much that when they went to balance it they said it was moving up and down on the machine, when I tore it down there was almost half a cup of powder in one area.

Discount Tire Sucks The store here in Surprise AZ. Broke two studs on my Wifes car, And never told me about it she was driving around for two months with only 3 lug nuts on the Left Ft wheel.
I took it back and the Mgr. Acted like it was no big deal.

remove a couple of his teeth and tell him it's no big deal, he still has a few more but will have a little more difficulty eating corn on the cob.
 
tc1959 said:
Discount Tire Sucks The store here in Surprise AZ. Broke two studs on my Wifes car, And never told me about it she was driving around for two months with only 3 lug nuts on the Left Ft wheel.
I took it back and the Mgr. Acted like it was no big deal.

Wow...That is a law suit waiting to happen. Cannot believe they let a car out of there without fixing it or informing the owner it was jacked up.

To the OP

As mentioned before cleaning the wheel really well before adhering the weights is extremely important. The last tires I had mounted on my firebird were balanced with stick on weights. 1 rim in the rear is missing the weights now. The inside of the wheels are pretty nasty. Next time I have some mounted I will just clean the wheels myself prior to taking them in.
 
O.K.,here's another of my anarchist opinions,this one on wheel balancing.Years ago it occured to me two elemental factors are universally not recognized by both the public and pro,honest tire installers. Fact--modern tires are made on VERY ACCURATE molds and are already acceptably balanced.Some do put small stickers on the sidewall to indicate an insignificantly lighter side--if you were a neurotic perfectionist,I.M.O.,I suppose you would put the valve stem on the opposite side--all nonesense,of course.Fact #Two--Factory steel wheels are also in excellent balance--unless you are a mudder,I guess.So the question begs--WHAT NEEDS TO BE BALANCED??!!! When I buy new tires I always ask them not to balance them. Once they put a weight on,they have destroyed a good balance and they then add/adjust more weights in an absurd attempt to regain what they destroyed.I like tire guys,but this always ends in a general shop bruhaha with the manager acting as though I must be insane or tragically missguided.I realize balancing is important to their bottom line--but they seem to really beleive in it. Kinda reminds me of the old Flat Earth Society...another tire myth I will explode later on side wall repair--and its' a do it yourself-stay tuned.
 
Yeah, who needs a balanced motor, driveshaft, rims and tires, etc,,, its all an industry conspiracy and I will not partake any longer either.
There is absolutely no need for ANY rotating mass on a 4000 pound object moving at 55+ mph to be balanced.



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LS engines aren't balanced from the factory so theres that lol

I get quite a few brand new tires that are over an ounce off. The bigger the tire the more weight it takes to feel something abnormal thats all. You arent going to feel a 1/2oz difference on a tire
 
79loserbluebu said:
LS engines aren't balanced from the factory so theres that lol

Really? I truly did not know that.
I will admit my knowledge of the LS engine is limited, but not the pressure plates, crank, flywheel, damper, none of it balanced?
If so, I find that pretty amazing and thank you for educating me.
 
The crankshaft is balanced but they aren't balancing rotating assemblies at the factory before putting them into the engines. I don't even think it's required to balance the rotating assembly even on an LS7 if replacing pistons per GM...
 
79loserbluebu said:
The crankshaft is balanced but they aren't balancing rotating assemblies at the factory before putting them into the engines. I don't even think it's required to balance the rotating assembly even on an LS7 if replacing pistons per GM...

I did not know that, thank you for sharing.
 
Well, I >like<to assume I am 'balanced enough' to realize that certain rotating assemblies benefit from balancing. My Camino's run P205/75R/14 tires interstate at max. legal speeds for years with no symptoms of inbalance.I once restored and ran an 1957 Isetta 300 on interstate highways at its' factory recognized top speed for many years--hold your hats--56 m.p.h.!- without a problem. O.K.,not a very 'balanced' thing to do,on my part--but think of the r.p.m. rate of its' 10 inch wheels at that speed!
 
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