Why animosity towards imports?

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yeah, listen to the guy from the south talk about driving in snow :rofl:
sorry bill, but i couldn't resist!
but seriously, FWD is easier to drive, but if you lose FW traction, you're screwed. RWD is much more stable and if you lose either wheel set you can still control the car. but you have to actually know how to drive! too many idiots out there want the car to do everything for them.
one thing to look at is the new "intelligent" AWD systems that are primarily RWD and only feed power to the FW as necessary.
 
I'd rather drive a FWD in the snow personally... Of course really I want a 4WD but oh well.

I'm hoping to get a truck sometime in the near future.
 
megaladon6 said:
yeah, listen to the guy from the south talk about driving in snow :rofl:
sorry bill, but i couldn't resist!
but seriously, FWD is easier to drive, but if you lose FW traction, you're screwed. RWD is much more stable and if you lose either wheel set you can still control the car. but you have to actually know how to drive! too many idiots out there want the car to do everything for them.
one thing to look at is the new "intelligent" AWD systems that are primarily RWD and only feed power to the FW as necessary.

That's my argument exactly, I have a 4wd, but never use it unless I absoulutely need to. A rwd vehicle is more likely to keep you in check with how fast you are going, I drove my gf's fwd in the snow once, I hated it, I constantly found myself going faster than I should've been going, the car felt more stable, but, I know if it did slip, I'd be screwed. With a rwd, the rear being a bit unstable, keeps me in that mindset of keeping my speed down.
 
bill said:
gp02a0083 said:
most likely thats what it is being mistaken for , that or an old corolla hatchback. I wouldn't mind having the supra , being RWD at least. I am not fond of FWD in snow and rain.
WHAT?
FWD is much better in the snow and rain...traction is much better because the weight of the engine is over the drive wheels, every honda Ive owned would go in the snow just fine....just try driving my 93 T-Bird anywhere when its snowing....totally useless!


Don't get me wrong at all, FWD is suppose to be better in those conditions. However like another member mentioned, you loose traction that's it. I always didn't like the fact that the power to the road and steering are on the same wheels. My little accord hatch did very well this year in the snowstorms that we had here in central Nj, considering i have Falken tires. I learned how to drive with RWD cars, FWD cars feel like go-carts to me.
 
megaladon6 said:
yeah, listen to the guy from the south talk about driving in snow :rofl:
sorry bill, but i couldn't resist!
but seriously, FWD is easier to drive, but if you lose FW traction, you're screwed. RWD is much more stable and if you lose either wheel set you can still control the car. but you have to actually know how to drive! too many idiots out there want the car to do everything for them.
one thing to look at is the new "intelligent" AWD systems that are primarily RWD and only feed power to the FW as necessary.
Granted, we dont get the volume of snow that you fellas get up there, but it does snow quite enough (we got hit 3 times last winter with 6+ inches) to make driving in it difficult. We get a lot more black ice and sleet here because the temp likes to rise above freezing during the day and drop like a rock at night!..Lots of fun...lol...but my 70 olds cutlass w/open diff went everywhere in the snow and so did my 88 Ranger w/open diff. But, just as with a RWD, you have to know how to drive a FWD in the snow. Since the power is pulling the car instead of pushing it, the skid recovery protocal is just about opposite for a FWD (power on in turns versus power off) I never had any issues with a fwd except on ICE, and nothing is really safe on that unless it has studded tires or chains. Good brake systems make a lot of difference too because if you have bad brake balance or one wheel lock up all the time, spins are hard to avoid. JMO
 
I can definitely agree with that. The way i look at it is that fwd is easier, but rwd has the capability to do better.
 
bill said:
gp02a0083 said:
most likely thats what it is being mistaken for , that or an old corolla hatchback. I wouldn't mind having the supra , being RWD at least. I am not fond of FWD in snow and rain.
WHAT?
FWD is much better in the snow and rain...traction is much better because the weight of the engine is over the drive wheels, every honda Ive owned would go in the snow just fine....just try driving my 93 T-Bird anywhere when its snowing....totally useless!
WHAT?
FWD is useless in the snow, if you lose traction you can't steer worth sh*t. Plus if RWD loses traction, you let off the gas and you get it right back. The trick is around 100lbs in the trunk and patience. I drive my cutty year round, and it's the best to drive in the winter next to my old shitstang.


Trust me, I live in Canada.
 
RITTER had a hell of a snow cat with his old regals. That thing went pretty much anywhere in the snow.
 
I dunno my Regal was completely and utterly useless in snow... It would lock the breaks at just the slightest touch, it had zero traction I couldn't even get out of my own driveway last November and December. I made it maybe 30 feet before I was hopelessly stuck. My moms Focus on the other hand, along with every FWD car I've owned or driven would plow through 6 inches of fresh snow without a problem. I don't know how you guys can drive a G-body in the snow where you live must be very flat... Because the hills around here you really have to carry some speed to get up them in the snow or you'll lose traction and just sit there or slide back to the bottom. And a mustang? Are you kidding me I used to drive an 81 Mustang and that was the most useless car I've ever driven in snow. 4x4's are obviously the best choice, but if it's super slippery it still doesn't matter once you start to go around on the ice and snow if it doesn't come back around right away, it's just gonna happen... Hold on and hope for the best. I've tried every technique pump the breaks, jam the brakes with and without ABS, let off and counter steer, or throttle and counter steer... But once you're out of control it doesn't matter what you're driving. Until you come to a stop or hit a surface with some traction you're gonna slide or spin or go off the road.

I've never ever gotten stuck or unable to go in a FWD car in snow, or a 4x4, only in RWD's.
 
I hear ya Kornball I prefer FWD in the snow as well if my only choice is a car. With RITTER'S regals I believe it was the lack of any power that made them perform well :lol: It acted almost like it had a slipper clutch kind of like on an rc car :mrgreen:
 
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