442 1985 - 1987 442 - Claret Interior Paint Color

SurferBill25

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Is there a paint code for the '85 - '87 442s? Specifically the Claret color.

I've been repairing a small crack in the consle plastic just in front of the ash tray. The crack is now repaired, so I just need to paint the repair to match the color of the Claret console. I have an old can of Duplicolor touch up paint that I used when I first installed the console for a set of Lightning Rods. It matched the color of the console exactly, but it is empty, and Duplicolor has discontinued that color (DSGM 353 Dark Red Metallic). I have searched all the local auto stores (Advance Auto, Auto Zone, NAPA, O'Reilly's) for a color that is close, but they are all too light (or bright). Have tried Chrysler Dark Garnet Red (BCC0413), GM Dark Torreador Metallic (BGM0521), and GM Addiction Red (BGM0596), but they are all very similar to each other and all too light. One that looks like it may be a little darker is GM 76 Dark Garnet Red (BGM0532), but I was not able to locate that locally.

I'm not aware that there is a paint code for the interior colors, but thought that someone in this forum might know.
 

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pagrunt

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The GM color code is 79, Dark Claret. You may find it as 79x with x being the letter code for the trim used. PPG code 51170 for semi gloss, 51085 for low gloss. Should be able to get a pint mixed by a PPG mixer or cross it to SEM or another brand instead of fighting with matching a modern color hue. BTW, it seems like touch up spray can selection is getting smaller for color choices with it only seems like Duplicolor being the only brand out there now.
 
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SurferBill25

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The GM color code is 79, Dark Claret. You may find it as 79x with x being the letter code for the trim used. PPG code 51170 for semi gloss, 51085 for low gloss. Should be able to get a pint mixed by a PPG mixer or cross it to SEM or another brand instead of fighting with matching a modern color hue. BTW, it seems like touch up spray can selection is getting smaller for color choices with it only seems like Duplicolor being the only brand out there now.
Super!! Thanks very much! Very helpful, and I greatly appreciate your information! Would the consoles be semi or low gloss?
 

69hurstolds

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If you're trying spot repair, good luck. I once had a saddle interior on an 87 Salon I needed to match console color for, and the Duplicolor and any other ready to go colors were either too bright or too dark. The console lid was darker for whatever reason and I couldn't find a new one in saddle. I ended up going to a paint supply place and got a custom-matched pint mixed to exactly match what was there. That was the only time I've done it, so that may not be much help.

The point is, if you just tell the paint shop to mix you up some PPG number 51170, they will. But now, will it exactly match what you have there? The only way to ensure it matches is to do the entire part. But because the tolerances are only as good as the guy mixing the stuff, the shade may not be exact with the area around it. Depends on how much a stickler you are for the details. I'd say maybe try to blend it like say, fender paint but I'm not sure you can do that with plastic paints.
 
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As 69hurstolds brought up & I forgot is with interior colors there is not 100% match regardless of getting the right gloss. Even new the colors varied buy different plastic lots, spray lots, fabric lots, etc... Currently age & amount of exposed sun light will change the hue. Best bet is going to recolor the whole part so a repair spot won't stand out. Even with spraying out of the same can from the same preparied batch will vary based on air temp & humidity at the time sprayed.
 
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SurferBill25

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If you're trying spot repair, good luck. I once had a saddle interior on an 87 Salon I needed to match console color for, and the Duplicolor and any other ready to go colors were either too bright or too dark. The console lid was darker for whatever reason and I couldn't find a new one in saddle. I ended up going to a paint supply place and got a custom-matched pint mixed to exactly match what was there. That was the only time I've done it, so that may not be much help.

The point is, if you just tell the paint shop to mix you up some PPG number 51170, they will. But now, will it exactly match what you have there? The only way to ensure it matches is to do the entire part. But because the tolerances are only as good as the guy mixing the stuff, the shade may not be exact with the area around it. Depends on how much a stickler you are for the details. I'd say maybe try to blend it like say, fender paint but I'm not sure you can do that with plastic paints.
Thanks for the info! I may try a small spot and see how that turns out.
 

SurferBill25

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As 69hurstolds brought up & I forgot is with interior colors there is not 100% match regardless of getting the right gloss. Even new the colors varied buy different plastic lots, spray lots, fabric lots, etc... Currently age & amount of exposed sun light will change the hue. Best bet is going to recolor the whole part so a repair spot won't stand out. Even with spraying out of the same can from the same preparied batch will vary based on air temp & humidity at the time sprayed.
Thank you.
 

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