2019 Challenger Widebooty HellKitty (she's giving me the meatsweats...)

[motorheadmike]

Have you ever thought about an interchiller setup?

Sure, and it would be great. It just comes with a lot of complexity (especially getting the refrigerant weight correct) and it isn't easily reversible. Funny you post that copper coiled contraption. Turbo Buicks had something similar back in the day.

CO2 for up pipe?

This might be un-related to this forum but here goes- If you wrapped Co2 lines around the up pipe in a spiral fashion, and sprayed the up pipe, would it significantly cool the intake charge? To me this is a hypothetical question raised by sheer boredom, but I would like to here some expert...

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Kenne Bell made lots of hokey sh*t:

Old school parts trivia.

What is this weird looking thing and what was the advertised HP gains? Anybody know?

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[64nailhead]

The primary nozzle is a #2 and is rated at 100mL/min (which is about 13.25lbs/hr) at full song. The operating system is full-time closed loop with dual widebands. The cars are very rich EQ ratio-wise in the stock tune so even if it went lean it would be very safe and would rapidly adjust to the drop in fuel.

What??? 100ml/min nozzle?? I've pee'd on a fire before - it only gives off a foul odor but no real fire fighting effect.

My car runs a 625 ml/min, but on E85 and I wait for 15 psi to get too crazy. The fresh front end setup is hoping for less or no meth needed. But my sons car runs dual 625 ml/min nozzles at 12 psi on pump gas - yes, 20 gallons per hour.

What are you doing with the 100ml/min nozzle? OMC is that undersized. You better order some more (larger) nozzles if you want any real effect.

Are you not running the Snow progressive controller? Jesus, it works great!

 

[motorheadmike]

What??? 100ml/min nozzle?? I've pee'd on a fire before - it only gives off a foul odor but no real fire fighting effect.

My car runs a 625 ml/min, but on E85 and I wait for 15 psi to get too crazy. The fresh front end setup is hoping for less or no meth needed. But my sons car runs dual 625 ml/min nozzles at 12 psi on pump gas - yes, 20 gallons per hour.

What are you doing with the 100ml/min nozzle? OMC is that undersized. You better order some more (larger) nozzles if you want any real effect.

Are you not running the Snow progressive controller? Jesus, it works great!

I have the bigger nozzles. I also have a second stage. Sheesh... let a man at least try it out. 😉

Yes, I have the Snow controller. I have it hooked up to reference boost and IDC. I could put a #10 nozzle in there and set the PWM/ramp rate to flow any rate of progression I desire. But, I am lazy... and it may be another toy I never really optimize. LOL.

This whole thing is about doing just enough to prevent timing retard.

 

[64nailhead]

Glad to see you knew I was giving you sh*t.

If you can datalog iat and meth then it will be super easy to dial in. But I’m sure that the 100ml/min nozzle will be silly. You have to fill your giant *ss tank every 3rd season .

 

[Supercharged111]

Man. My trucks would pick up a lot of snort if I added some meth, being non-intercooled and all with IATs around 200 in the summer. I'd probably need as much meth as fuel tho. . .

 

[81cutlass]

I used to run window washer fluid on my L67 Fturd and noticed pretty severe teflon flaking on the rotor pack.

I swapped to a different rotor pack with better teflon and let the old pack sit in a half gallon of window washer fluid overnight and it bubbled all the teflon coating under the water level off.

Granted there is a lot of difference between a 1997 Heaton blower and a new IHI hellkitty blower but I kinda scared myself off alky on blowers pre-rotor because of that. It's possible the window washer fluid was more potent than plain meth/water. I also heard the teflon is low digit percentage efficiency gain and more noise related but who really knows.

I've tossed around putting a methanol injection kit on my 2+2 since I do deal with semi high IAT's but with good access to E85 I've been lazy to adopt.

 

[Supercharged111]

I used to run window washer fluid on my L67 Fturd and noticed pretty severe teflon flaking on the rotor pack.

I swapped to a different rotor pack with better teflon and let the old pack sit in a half gallon of window washer fluid overnight and it bubbled all the teflon coating under the water level off.

Granted there is a lot of difference between a 1997 Heaton blower and a new IHI hellkitty blower but I kinda scared myself off alky on blowers pre-rotor because of that. It's possible the window washer fluid was more potent than plain meth/water. I also heard the teflon is low digit percentage efficiency gain and more noise related but who really knows.

I've tossed around putting a methanol injection kit on my 2+2 since I do deal with semi high IAT's but with good access to E85 I've been lazy to adopt.

And rightly so, E85 massively reduces your need for meth. It also makes you a much bigger wimp for not sending it on the timing front.

 

[Northernregal]

I used to run window washer fluid on my L67 Fturd and noticed pretty severe teflon flaking on the rotor pack.

I swapped to a different rotor pack with better teflon and let the old pack sit in a half gallon of window washer fluid overnight and it bubbled all the teflon coating under the water level off.

Granted there is a lot of difference between a 1997 Heaton blower and a new IHI hellkitty blower but I kinda scared myself off alky on blowers pre-rotor because of that. It's possible the window washer fluid was more potent than plain meth/water. I also heard the teflon is low digit percentage efficiency gain and more noise related but who really knows.

I've tossed around putting a methanol injection kit on my 2+2 since I do deal with semi high IAT's but with good access to E85 I've been lazy to adopt.

And rightly so, E85 massively reduces your need for meth. It also makes you a much bigger wimp for not sending it on the timing front.

Ya, send it!

 

[motorheadmike]

I used to run window washer fluid on my L67 Fturd and noticed pretty severe teflon flaking on the rotor pack.

I swapped to a different rotor pack with better teflon and let the old pack sit in a half gallon of window washer fluid overnight and it bubbled all the teflon coating under the water level off.

Granted there is a lot of difference between a 1997 Heaton blower and a new IHI hellkitty blower but I kinda scared myself off alky on blowers pre-rotor because of that. It's possible the window washer fluid was more potent than plain meth/water. I also heard the teflon is low digit percentage efficiency gain and more noise related but who really knows.

I've tossed around putting a methanol injection kit on my 2+2 since I do deal with semi high IAT's but with good access to E85 I've been lazy to adopt.

I sure hope it stays on - LOL.

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At least as much as it is supposed to.

What Is An Abradable Rotor Coating?

I know what teflon is but this abradable thingie sounds like tradename for some coating they really do not want us to know, like tennifer vs nitride.

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And it looks like the coating process changed in 1998.

Teflon Coating is coming off the supercharger rotors.

When i did my head gaskets on my motor i noticed on the rotors that the black teflon coating was chipping off, I don't know what that will do to the S/C but i d

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Immasendit.

 

[motorheadmike]

Filled the tank with washer fluid and flushed the system. Checked for leaks, fixed them. Drained the tank and then retested the system through the nozzle with straight meth. Next comes test driving and tuning. I figure the full-on setting will be 10 psi (the car has recorded 12+psi which is high for a stock Hellcat) and can ramp-in to there from 1 psi. I will have to log IDC to see where the turn-on point should be and how high it gets in a pull to redline. Depending on the results I see I can tune the system with larger nozzles or the second stage... or both.