2019 Silverado 1500 Gets I-4 Turbo

[CaliWagon83]

Just goes to show the application is wrong. A stout turbo 4 would work wonders in the Canyon/Colorado.

I agree. This engine would make a lot more sense to me in the Colorado/Canyon.

 

[joesregalproject]

It was born of a paper pusher trying to decide where to cut weight and improve cafe requirements enacted by the last administration. Not a truck person.

It may be a flop when it comes to sales after 2-3 years with resale in the toilet and fleet/contractor types abandoning the brand in droves.

An independent contractor with a single vehicle is going with a 2500/3500 or better. But those companies with fleets, and utilities, etc? They cycle through 10, 20, 50 trucks every 4-5 years, buy half tons, ditching them around the 200k mile mark. Now if you tell me they start finding their fuel costs increasing by volume independent of fluctuating gas prices that they're going to keep buying the same turd over and over.... you're crazy.

So from a hot rodder perspective it may be desirable because there would be a surplus of unwanted engines, ok. But that doesn't make it a good truck engine.

Look at the early 80s, on paper the 3.8 everyone complains about was around 120hp. A vin Y 307 was around 140, a whopping 20 extra.

So that 3.8 was ultra advanced, a real fuel saver right, weighed a bunch less and almost as capable as the v8! In the real world you're not going to notice a whole lot of difference so let's go v6!

Sounds crazy right?

A turbo 4 doesn't belong in a full sized truck that is going to be a working man's truck.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

The only point I'm trying to make is this- If a 4 cyl is making 300+ HP and torque, who cares if it is a 4 cyl? For years all the manufacturers were putting asthmatic 8 cylinders in pickups and no one cared simply because they were 8 cylinders.

The gas mileage of the four cylinder is going to be bad for a four cylinder, but compared to other 300+ HP engines, it will probably be about the same if not marginally better.

Same thing with the EcoBoost V6s. For example the 3.5L; They have poor gas mileage for V6s, but compared to other engines that make 475 lb ft of torque, the gas mileage isn't bad.

Still if you are shopping for fuel economy and nothing else, both Chevy and Ford offer a N/A V6 that will probably produce the best MPGs of the lineup.

 

[fleming442]

I don't know. 2.7 is big for a 4 banger, but I can't see much good coming from it. The article states that the turbo provides 90% of the torque and it can drop down to 2 cylinders. It might be okay for a grocery getter, but you're not going to pull your race car trailer or push snow with it.

 

[street sweeper]

I don't know. 2.7 is big for a 4 banger, but I can't see much good coming from it. The article states that the turbo provides 90% of the torque and it can drop down to 2 cylinders. It might be okay for a grocery getter, but you're not going to pull your race car trailer or push snow with it.

how many of the 500,000+ silverado's sold in the US last year do you think actually see anything besides a couple bags of mulch or a bicycle(s)? I really think you(most members in this thread) are overestimating the actual use of trucks in this country considering the Big 3's half tons are the 3 best selling vehicles in this country. I have a Nissan Frontier and have pulled 2 vehicles and multiple several hundred pound loads in the bed alone in the past year and guarantee my 1/4 / Midsize truck has done more work than many Half Ton's without exceeding the manufacturers established capabilities.

So i think a majority of Truck owners do not actually utilize a truck for its actual intended purposes. Plus everyone ive heard talk about late model f150's claim they drive just like a car. I think that was intentional on Ford's part and actually smart since it will net them more sales.

I do not believe the 4 cylinder will have the reliability or longevity as a SBC but it will be a better engine than the 4.3 while under warranty. Peak torque at 1500 rpm while being a lighter truck, it will be fun around town. Would i want to be a hot shot hauler with one? Most certainly not but id venture to say you have such a minimal percentage of 1/2 ton owners that actually rely on their trucks to make their living.

Also a tuned 2.7 in a colorado would be quick little truck if they respond like the 2.0T in my cobalt ss did to a tune alone and made 300 whp/310wtq. But that would eat into their market share of their cash cow the silverado.

 

[fleming442]

Point taken. I'm suggesting truck use which, if that's the intended purpose, your engine choice wouldn't be turbo 4 anyway.
Now, an Xtreme/SS Colorado would be badass!

 

[81cutlass]

This engine is more of a margin maker than anything. Half the pistons, half the bolts, half the cylinder heads. Suburbian person walks in and wants to tow their lawn mower, maybe haul a couch, and get good mileage. They can afford 42k on finance and that's it, but aren't willing to sacrifice leather seats and a big screen. Would you rather have a extended cab v8 with cloth seats that most of the time you a) dont use the bed and b) don't use the hp, or get the turbo 4 that has sufficient power with the big cab to haul all the stuff you didn't need back home from walmart.

Key the turbo 4. Cheaper to make, GM makes more money on interior options than they do on engines anyways. Take a few clutch packs out of the trans, smaller rear axle maybe. It has enough HP to not be anemic and de-rate the "TOUGH WERK THRUCK" brand image.

Take $500 of cost out of drivetrain, add $150 in options, double or triple the margins.

If people actually used pickups like they were marketed for, this country would get a whole heck of a lot more crap done.

 

[motorheadmike]

Don't you dare tell me what I do or do not haul in my wife's pick-up. Because this is what a State-side parts run in her Colorado looks like:

 

[Turbolq4]

Point taken. I'm suggesting truck use which, if that's the intended purpose, your engine choice wouldn't be turbo 4 anyway.
Now, an Xtreme/SS Colorado would be badass!

They made Colorado's with all aluminum 5.3s.

 

[Canon_Mutant]

Despite GM literally being my initials, they lost me some time ago. My '99 Sierra was a great truck. Put a bazillion miles on it WAY too quickly so decided to try the new Canyon in 2005 after the gas price spike but got a truck designed by Isuzu and, though mine was assembled in KC, every component on it was made in Mexico or Overseas. Lots of initial quality issues. Problems as usual GM service would just blame on me being an idiot . . . until I found the problems for them. Actually went through some of that with my Sierra too. Fortunately, it had very few problems and nothing serious.

Though the Ecoboost was a good idea, that truck nearly got me killed twice and when it finally lost all power with my wife in the truck sucking excessive intercooler condensation into the engine trying to pass a semi, combined with the 17-22mpg quickly going to 13-18 before the first oil change which was deemed to be still within Ford's acceptable range . . . that truck was actually a dealer buy back. Hey, if I wanted 13-18mpg, I would have gotten the 6L V8.

Using a truck as a truck out here on the farm, I cannot foresee a turbo 4 in a full size truck being a good decision. Mall Crawler that never gets dirty and halls the kitty litter? What the hell? Now a 3.0 turbo 6 clean diesel with appropriate gearing behind it? Where do I sign?

New Colorado/Canyon said they were going diesel and I was mildly intrigued but then found out it was a consigned motor in front of a transmission that was built for 39 less lb ft than the stock motor was putting out. I predict premature transmission failures there and you can forget any after market tuning. Can't find the logic there and the V6 gassers like most Jeeps are car motors. Wrong power band for a truck [or Jeep].

So, I used to drive Euro-Wagon Turbo Diesels until I got sick, my wife still drives a Q5 and I'd love to get her in a LandRover diesel but she's ready for Buicks or Subarus [someone kill me please]. So, now I just drive my ole Gen One Tacoma and HOPEFULLY my 67 and 87 442s. It could happen!

Now, if my health stabilizes, I can think of a few modern sports cars I wouldn't mind owning . . . 👍

 

[olds307 and 403]

The LS and the sbc had the wrong power band for trucks, gutless down low. The new gen 5 V8 is is now the best of both worlds and fuel efficient. The 4 cyl is no doubt for CAFE numbers, just like the Ecoboost. The manufacturer's don't care if they actually achieve those numbers as long as it helps their numbers on paper.