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84 Hurst Olds project car value??

Discussion in 'Oldsmobile Cutlass / 442 / Hurst/Olds' started by H/O84, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. Ribbedroof

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    24 years of experience in the business, and 15 years before that as a hobbyist.

    I have seen it many times, people strip a car and leave it exposed to the elements, even in a closed building, flash rust starts immediately. What happens when you sand steel...it makes scratches. Guess what grows down in those scratches? Rust.

    The shop I am in now did an 85 Mustang GT about 4 years ago, it was a typical faded porous 80s paint job. Paint shop DA'd the whole thing to the metal, primed it with Chroma Premier, painted with Chromabase and clear, comes back all the time with blisters in places like the valley on the hood where the style line is. It's almost impossible to sand out all the rust on a car that has been sitting exposed for months/years.

    You will notice I said a blaster that knows what they are doing. This does NOT mean the same guys that do construction equipment, industrial machinery, trailers, etc. You need a blaster that uses the proper media for the job. Sand is never the proper media for automotive sheetmetal. A good blaster isn't cheap, a cheap blaster isn't good.

    Strip a panel, prime right then, preferably a DTM epoxy, or at least a good etching primer like Variprime, followed by a primer/sealer....but epoxy is the preferred choice. Is it more of a PITA and an inconvienence to do it this way, sure it is. Time is money. Is redoing a complete a PITA, you bet it is and the way materials are priced, nobody wants to pay for that.

    What kind of a guarantee/warranty are these guys going to provide?

    Unless you live in the most arid climate in North America (and as I recall from living in Iowa with family in WI for 25 years, it's not), I wouldn't even consider just sanding and spraying,unless it's a flipper.

    And, we haven't even addressed the subject of NOT having a standard collision shop take on a job like this.
     
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    Always the option of wiping down with lacquer thinner
     
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    To do what?

    Won't remove rust, and leaves contaminants on the surface, especially the crap that passes for lacquer thinner these days.
     
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    Im just saying I've never had rust pop back up after sanding. And the thinner would wash out any rust particles that may get in scratches.
     
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    Jejeje. If you know anything about futures you'd know that the reason the market is doing well right now is because everyone is anticipating that Trump will soon be POTUS.
     
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    After looking at the pics again I can see it's bare. It is going to come down to how much you are willing to spend and I think you realize your going to have $8-$10,000 in it if you get it for $3,000. @ 38,000 mi's that interior should be in near perfect condition, if mice have lived in there you will defiantly smell it and you won't get rid of it. Good luck getting it - if you are questioning yourself walk away from it a week and see if you still feel the same.
     
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    I think my plans for it will be if it cleans up nice try to restore it to a certain aspect and try not to end up spending more than its worth but if its a pile of crap ill prime it and start using the performance parts I have laying around. its a nice solid platform to restore or hotrod. There is no filler on the car what you are seeing is old paint that was not completely taken off.
     
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    Sounds like you are buying it - If you look at the NADA prices for that car (which I think are HIGH) the low value for that car is more than you would put in it. Next to the GN(turbo regal), the HO is probably the second most sought after Gbody
     
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    those cars aren't growing on trees. grab one at a reasonable price while you can!
     
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    This, you better find a urine removing shampoo. My 70 S smelled terrible, full of mice. Only cleaning, gutting and replacing made it much better. Pretty sure the carpet will need to go and the back seat still needs done. Hopefully that will completely kill the smell, it is much better.
     
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