9/11....

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If you asked me, it really needs to be a federal holiday given how much can be traced to that day.
Great idea. But, there's not a rainbow attached to it, otherwise it likely would be.

Funny how there's an entire month dedicated to others less deserving, yet veterans and KIA are only honored one day. At least it is separately so it makes it a grand total of 2 days per year. It's sadder, yet, that some people can't tell you why they even have those holidays in the first place.

I was working night shifts, and was home asleep that morning when my wife called from her work to wake me and tell me what was going on and to turn on the news on the TV. I did and it was just awful. Heart-wrenching to see, and at that point they didn't have a clear understanding as to what all was happening and who was behind it all. Then the 2nd plane hit the towers. Scary? Yes. Where was it going to end? How many planes were hi-jacked that morning? Were we at war?

My shock slowly turned to sadness, then to anger and wanted some accountability. And just yesterday, I was angered again by someone who blew off visiting one of the sites or at least being in D.C. When that particular someone shows the world they don't care, the moral fabric of the U.S. is damaged to a degree I don't think we can recover from. Especially United Flight 93. Innocent people fought the terrorists and gave their lives to protect many more in D.C., only to have the some of the people who represent those who were saved turn their backs on their legacy. That's some kind of gratitude, isn't it?

"Some people did something..." to say that is the dumbest dumbazz thing to say, ever.

Heroes. That day was full of them.
 
Great idea. But, there's not a rainbow attached to it, otherwise it likely would be.

Funny how there's an entire month dedicated to others less deserving, yet veterans and KIA are only honored one day. At least it is separately so it makes it a grand total of 2 days per year. It's sadder, yet, that some people can't tell you why they even have those holidays in the first place.

I was working night shifts, and was home asleep that morning when my wife called from her work to wake me and tell me what was going on and to turn on the news on the TV. I did and it was just awful. Heart-wrenching to see, and at that point they didn't have a clear understanding as to what all was happening and who was behind it all. Then the 2nd plane hit the towers. Scary? Yes. Where was it going to end? How many planes were hi-jacked that morning? Were we at war?

My shock slowly turned to sadness, then to anger and wanted some accountability. And just yesterday, I was angered again by someone who blew off visiting one of the sites or at least being in D.C. When that particular someone shows the world they don't care, the moral fabric of the U.S. is damaged to a degree I don't think we can recover from. Especially United Flight 93. Innocent people fought the terrorists and gave their lives to protect many more in D.C., only to have the some of the people who represent those who were saved turn their backs on their legacy. That's some kind of gratitude, isn't it?

"Some people did something..." to say that is the dumbest dumbazz thing to say, ever.

Heroes. That day was full of them.
Don't forget, even in D.C. the pentagon took a hit. So, in that regard, being in D.C. is still being at a site sort of.

Then again, the one of who you speak is just senile enough to think Alaska WAS the site of an attack that day. Maybe he confuses the occupation of attu and kiska with a 9/11 attack? I mean he did say he was there the day after and looking at the aftermath even though video exists of him on the senate floor...
 
Great idea. But, there's not a rainbow attached to it, otherwise it likely would be.

Funny how there's an entire month dedicated to others less deserving, yet veterans and KIA are only honored one day. At least it is separately so it makes it a grand total of 2 days per year. It's sadder, yet, that some people can't tell you why they even have those holidays in the first place.

I was working night shifts, and was home asleep that morning when my wife called from her work to wake me and tell me what was going on and to turn on the news on the TV. I did and it was just awful. Heart-wrenching to see, and at that point they didn't have a clear understanding as to what all was happening and who was behind it all. Then the 2nd plane hit the towers. Scary? Yes. Where was it going to end? How many planes were hi-jacked that morning? Were we at war?

My shock slowly turned to sadness, then to anger and wanted some accountability. And just yesterday, I was angered again by someone who blew off visiting one of the sites or at least being in D.C. When that particular someone shows the world they don't care, the moral fabric of the U.S. is damaged to a degree I don't think we can recover from. Especially United Flight 93. Innocent people fought the terrorists and gave their lives to protect many more in D.C., only to have the some of the people who represent those who were saved turn their backs on their legacy. That's some kind of gratitude, isn't it?

"Some people did something..." to say that is the dumbest dumbazz thing to say, ever.

Heroes. That day was full of them.
To be honest and hopefully not insensitive they won't let that happen because they don't want people to think too much into it. Bringing up DC, let alone the third tower to go down leaves a lot that will never make sense to me that shocks me people aren't more upset about. I was in college when it happened and it was crazy to me that it seemed everyone everywhere felt like they could be next. I went to Slippery Rock and it escapes me now what the reason was but many students were giving reasons why our area could be next
 
Two years ago I had the pleasure of meeting a number of firefighters, including Joe Morabito, that survived the attack on the WTC on 09/11/2001. They were present at and part of a ceremony commemorating the 20th anniversary of the attack along with a display of the 9/11 moving memorial at the High School I attended. The same High School where my friends and I watched the horror of that day unfold, like the rest of the nation. After the ceremony and after a tour of the memorial, I found myself near by a few of the NYC firefighters/survivors and began to chat them up (I could not resist). They seemed eager and willing to talk which is why I felt comfortable having the following conversation with them. I relayed that I was in High School at the time and we watched the second plane hit live on TV and that many things have "stuck" with me about 9/11, the events of the day and the days that follow, but above all, I remember the people that jumped from the towers. The men stopped for a moment, turned and looked at me and one of them responded that the first firefighters to die on 9/11 was the result not of the impact, the debris but from people jumping/falling on them from above. The "jumpers" were important to the FDNY because, when they arrived on the scene en-masse, and they witnessed the horror of those leaping to their death, it was apparent to them, if it was not already, that they would be going into those buildings, but they were not likely coming out.

(https://t2t.org/9-11-never-forget-mobile-exhibit-kicks-off-2021-season-in-rhode-island/)
 
Two years ago I had the pleasure of meeting a number of firefighters, including Joe Morabito, that survived the attack on the WTC on 09/11/2001. They were present at and part of a ceremony commemorating the 20th anniversary of the attack along with a display of the 9/11 moving memorial at the High School I attended. The same High School where my friends and I watched the horror of that day unfold, like the rest of the nation. After the ceremony and after a tour of the memorial, I found myself near by a few of the NYC firefighters/survivors and began to chat them up (I could not resist). They seemed eager and willing to talk which is why I felt comfortable having the following conversation with them. I relayed that I was in High School at the time and we watched the second plane hit live on TV and that many things have "stuck" with me about 9/11, the events of the day and the days that follow, but above all, I remember the people that jumped from the towers. The men stopped for a moment, turned and looked at me and one of them responded that the first firefighters to die on 9/11 was the result not of the impact, the debris but from people jumping/falling on them from above. The "jumpers" were important to the FDNY because, when they arrived on the scene en-masse, and they witnessed the horror of those leaping to their death, it was apparent to them, if it was not already, that they would be going into those buildings, but they were not likely coming out.

(https://t2t.org/9-11-never-forget-mobile-exhibit-kicks-off-2021-season-in-rhode-island/)
Wow. Such a diff perspective.
 
Sooo others can say political stuff but I can't. That and let's speak up instead of this chickenshit passive stuff.

Yea we'll go down this road, don't care. I'll call it out since I'm the only one being chastised.

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Sooo others can say political stuff but I can't. That and let's speak up instead of this chickenshit passive stuff.

Yea we'll go down this road, don't care. I'll call it out since I'm the only one being chastised.

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Respectfully, in THIS case I'd suggest having it out with him via PM.

The original topic of this thread to honor and remember those who gave their all on that day, and those who continue to deal with the aftermath, and the things that all followed from it, they and this thread deserve better than to see things turn down the 'having it out' road.
 
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Respectfully, in THIS case I'd suggest having it out with him via PM.
If I knew who "him" was I'd had sent a PM and wouldn't even have made a post.

Trust me, I have no problem with the topic of this thread. It happened here so I'm addressing it. That's it.

So with that being said when you see a problem it's good to have a solution also, whomever it was can read my post right here and above, and send me a message. Then take out my posts. Sounds like a good idea. 🙂
 
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If I knew who "him" was I'd had sent a PM and wouldn't even have made a post.

Trust me, I have no problem with the topic of this thread. It happened here so I'm addressing it. That's it.
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