Cutlass salon, sold but never transferred.
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Thank you so much everyone, and Evan exactly you have to have insurance on a car that even sits in your garage.
I also am on watch, for 2 years if I even have a momentary lapse of insurance I will go to jail.
I mean I understand they wont just pop out of nowhere and take me, but if they see I failed to pay insurance or am late paying they will come to my house and take me.
That's the agreement I had to make at court.
I mean I am not sure if they are actually watching my payments or something but still not trying to find out you know.
I do appreciate your comment though none the less.
but I will definitely;y check in today to see if he has switched it over seeing as he never answered his phone and wont call us back.
But again I really appreciate all the comments, They all help no matter what.
I also am on watch, for 2 years if I even have a momentary lapse of insurance I will go to jail.
I mean I understand they wont just pop out of nowhere and take me, but if they see I failed to pay insurance or am late paying they will come to my house and take me.
That's the agreement I had to make at court.
I mean I am not sure if they are actually watching my payments or something but still not trying to find out you know.
I do appreciate your comment though none the less.
but I will definitely;y check in today to see if he has switched it over seeing as he never answered his phone and wont call us back.
But again I really appreciate all the comments, They all help no matter what.
Do you have a bill of sale? I am not a lawyer, however I worked in the insurance industry in Michigan so have some knowledge of motor vehicle code.
Whenever I sell a car, I always meet the seller at the Sec of State (DMV) and finalize everything there and then. That gets the car out of my name and I am not liable if he goes out and drives it into a school. With no bill of sale and without him retitling it in his name, you may be liable if something happens when he or anyone else is driving it.
My first stop would be to your DMV. You could force him to retitle it in his name by going to the DMV and applying for a duplicate title saying you lost yours. This is not the right way to do things and I am not advising you to do that as you may get in trouble. However, if it went through without him contesting, you could theoretically try to repo the car as his title should be null and void now. Again, not advising you to do that.
Some states have something called a Transfer Notification that you would fill out when you sell a car. Not sure what it does exactly, but it may have been created to protect sellers in exactly this situation.
It never sat well with me to sign over a title to someone and just hope they retitled it like they are supposed to do. If they didn't and the buyer got in trouble, believe me, the insurance companies would be on you right away for damages. You could reasonably be held liable for those damages as you still are titled on the vehicle.
That would be my biggest concern right now, liability. If he ran over a bunch of nuns (God forbid...) or caused a train derailment with "your" car, it would get messy and I've seen the insurance companies go after people for really big sums of money. If I was the insurance company, I would DEFINITLY go after you and force you to prove you did not own the car, which you may be unable to do because it's still titled in your name.
All states have laws as to how long an individual has to transfer title. Check with the state DMV.
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Whenever I sell a car, I always meet the seller at the Sec of State (DMV) and finalize everything there and then. That gets the car out of my name and I am not liable if he goes out and drives it into a school. With no bill of sale and without him retitling it in his name, you may be liable if something happens when he or anyone else is driving it.
My first stop would be to your DMV. You could force him to retitle it in his name by going to the DMV and applying for a duplicate title saying you lost yours. This is not the right way to do things and I am not advising you to do that as you may get in trouble. However, if it went through without him contesting, you could theoretically try to repo the car as his title should be null and void now. Again, not advising you to do that.
Some states have something called a Transfer Notification that you would fill out when you sell a car. Not sure what it does exactly, but it may have been created to protect sellers in exactly this situation.
It never sat well with me to sign over a title to someone and just hope they retitled it like they are supposed to do. If they didn't and the buyer got in trouble, believe me, the insurance companies would be on you right away for damages. You could reasonably be held liable for those damages as you still are titled on the vehicle.
That would be my biggest concern right now, liability. If he ran over a bunch of nuns (God forbid...) or caused a train derailment with "your" car, it would get messy and I've seen the insurance companies go after people for really big sums of money. If I was the insurance company, I would DEFINITLY go after you and force you to prove you did not own the car, which you may be unable to do because it's still titled in your name.
All states have laws as to how long an individual has to transfer title. Check with the state DMV.
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Ok now I wonder how many people I screwed over years . I been buy cars/truck in other states since 85 and most were parted and not swaped .
. In PA you have to have insurance to get a /registration license plate .(well any time ) I didnt know some states it was a title thing .
As for legal . Well one burnt out light and he gets stopped the fines will be worse ..
. In PA you have to have insurance to get a /registration license plate .(well any time ) I didnt know some states it was a title thing .
As for legal . Well one burnt out light and he gets stopped the fines will be worse ..
I had that happen a couple times when someone didn't tranfer the title and both times the car got impounded and the police called me thinking it might have been stolen and both times I explained to them that I sold it, once was well over a year. Both times I was also told if I wanted to pay the impound fee I had every right to retrieve my old car but I passed on both.
Now when I sell a car I have the new owner sign the title in front of me and I go in my house a make a photo copy of the title and their driver's license, if I didn't have a copier I would take a picture of both.
Every state is different in MI the other option is you go with the new owner to s.o.s. and do the transfer, which I say screw that I don't like when I have to go there for myself.
Now when I sell a car I have the new owner sign the title in front of me and I go in my house a make a photo copy of the title and their driver's license, if I didn't have a copier I would take a picture of both.
Every state is different in MI the other option is you go with the new owner to s.o.s. and do the transfer, which I say screw that I don't like when I have to go there for myself.
here it is for sale I believe..posted only a few days ago...pics look to be the same ones David posted up when he was selling it last yr. this is your old car isn't it David?
http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/3206967358.html
http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/3206967358.html
im kinda in the same situation, but on the other end of the stick. i bought a car out of town about a month ago, and i lost the title at the hotel i was staying at. i constantly called the previous owner, and the hotel to see if either we could apply for lost title or if they had found it, with no answers from the seller at all. 3 weeks later, the hotel called and said they had found it, but since i hadnt signed the title yet, i couldnt come get it, the seller could,even though i have proof i stayed at the hotel on the date it was lost and ive kept calling since then about a lost title, they said itd be like "handing over a random credit card" 
anywho, he keeps ditching the phone calls ive tried to make to arrange for the two of us to meet at the hotel so that i could get it, and since its been over a month, the hotel has probably destroyed it (as they said they would after 30 days). now, i still have no title but ive been driving the car since the day i bought it with the plates from my 87 on it, insured and all. how can i get the title without the previous owners cooperation??
anywho, he keeps ditching the phone calls ive tried to make to arrange for the two of us to meet at the hotel so that i could get it, and since its been over a month, the hotel has probably destroyed it (as they said they would after 30 days). now, i still have no title but ive been driving the car since the day i bought it with the plates from my 87 on it, insured and all. how can i get the title without the previous owners cooperation??Evan's 85 said:
CAn sell in PA but for parts . Course new owner and have search done to see if stolen and get a r title for it some times .
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