Engine question - i can't identify this motor

Fzeed

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Put a breaker bar with socket on the end of the crankshaft and gently try to rotate it. That's gonna tell you if it's frozen or free without dealing with the starter.

If it's stuck then you can worry about choosing which product you have on hand to pour into the cylinder and wait to free it up hopefully
I poured some mystery oil down each spark plug hole and let it sit for a few days. I'll try moving the crankshaft.
 

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Put a breaker bar with socket on the end of the crankshaft and gently try to rotate it. That's gonna tell you if it's frozen or free without dealing with the starter.

If it's stuck then you can worry about choosing which product you have on hand to pour into the cylinder and wait to free it up hopefully
No luck, i can't feel anything to attach a socket to.
 

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1965 230 CID from a 10 or 20 series pick up, 140 HP.
So if i can get this motor to turn i might keep it but i will need to replace all the externals. If i go out to buy a carb or alt etc, i would need to tell them its a '65 or '65 truck? are the externals interchangeable and if so what's the latest year i can go up to?
 

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So if i can get this motor to turn i might keep it but i will need to replace all the externals. If i go out to buy a carb or alt etc, i would need to tell them its a '65 or '65 truck? are the externals interchangeable and if so what's the latest year i can go up to?
It depends.

Externally, you can add an a/c compressor and front accessories, power steering, etc all the way up to 1984 when they axed the motor.

On the intake/exhaust manifold and carb side you can only go up to the mid 1970s when they switched to an integrated head. I suppose you COUlD swap the integrated head and 2bbl on there. But why?

With the traditional head you can buy a modified intake, either tri-power monojet, dual 4bbl, or single 4bbl. But beware, without mods they can be known to run hotter in different t cylinders than others because of fuel distribution down the intake, and, thus vale wear uneven and problems down the road.

If you wanted a header you need the non-intgrated style head.

As for not feeling anything for a breaker bar. If you have front accessories and pulleys on the engine, there is a bolt going into the nose of the crankshaft that you use to gently rock the rotating assembly back and forth to try freeing it up.
 

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It depends.

Externally, you can add an a/c compressor and front accessories, power steering, etc all the way up to 1984 when they axed the motor.

On the intake/exhaust manifold and carb side you can only go up to the mid 1970s when they switched to an integrated head. I suppose you COUlD swap the integrated head and 2bbl on there. But why?

With the traditional head you can buy a modified intake, either tri-power monojet, dual 4bbl, or single 4bbl. But beware, without mods they can be known to run hotter in different t cylinders than others because of fuel distribution down the intake, and, thus vale wear uneven and problems down the road.

If you wanted a header you need the non-intgrated style head.

As for not feeling anything for a breaker bar. If you have front accessories and pulleys on the engine, there is a bolt going into the nose of the crankshaft that you use to gently rock the rotating assembly back and forth to try freeing it up.
Think i might just pull the radiator out so i can take a better look. Would putting tension on the belt and moving the fan have the same effect as using a socket on the crank?
 

ELCAM

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Take pictures, the carb is likely the nova carb. The alternator is likely the nova alternator.
 

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ELCAM

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The carb and linkage looks like it is from the nova. Standard monojet carb.

65 PU carb looks like this, also a 1bbl.
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65 alternator would be the external regulator type with the square plug in the back as opposed to the rectangular plug on the side for the internal regulator alternator which for chevy was new in 1972.

power steering pump and brackets look like they are from the nova.

Distributor is from a 78-79 Chevy 200 or 229 V6.

Nova likely had AIR.
 
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Fzeed

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The carb and linkage looks like it is from the nova. Standard monojet carb.

65 PU carb looks like this, also a 1bbl.
View attachment 203964

65 alternator would be the external regulator type with the square plug in the back as opposed to the rectangular plug on the side for the internal regulator alternator which for chevy was new in 1972.

power steering pump and brackets look like they are from the nova.

Distributor is from a 78-79 Chevy 200 or 229 V6.

Nova likely had AIR.

The carb and linkage looks like it is from the nova. Standard monojet carb.

65 PU carb looks like this, also a 1bbl.
View attachment 203964

65 alternator would be the external regulator type with the square plug in the back as opposed to the rectangular plug on the side for the internal regulator alternator which for chevy was new in 1972.

power steering pump and brackets look like they are from the nova.

Distributor is from a 78-79 Chevy 200 or 229 V6.

Nova likely had AIR.
Good to know! Do you think i have the transmission that came with the car originally? Would they have swapped it out too? I haven't looked into that yet.
Thanks for all your help!!!
 

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