EPA Has New Rules

[pontiacgp]

at least they picked a nice car for the article but it looks like our cars are being targeted..
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2016...rict-road-to-racecar-conversions/?intcmp=hpff

 

[dlo253]

Saw that yesterday. This is something we all need to fight as hard as we can...

 

[SRD art]

You can sign a petition instigated and supported by SEMA here- SEMA anti EPA rule petition

 

[joesregalproject]

What a load of s***. I honestly believe clean air acts are mostly a scam. Just a bunch of bureaucrats looking for one more 'emissions' test they can charge a fee for. I have no doubt in my mind that state emissions testing is a scam. There is no doubt this proposal will be met with much opposition.

 

[jeremyandthemonte]

I signed it since I am a American citizen but this whole thing is another money scam.

 

[Ribbedroof]

What a load of s***. I honestly believe clean air acts are mostly a scam. Just a bunch of bureaucrats looking for one more 'emissions' test they can charge a fee for. I have no doubt in my mind that state emissions testing is a scam. There is no doubt this proposal will be met with much opposition.

I have to disagree. Dirty air is a reality. I live 40 miles from Oklahoma City, and every morning on my way to work in the city I can see a brown haze over the city as I drive in. I first saw this coming into Denver, CO in 1993. Driving out of the city, one does not see this boundary layer of dirt, soot, carbon and whatever else is in it.

That said, I find it hard to believe that the limited use of off-road competition vehicles is a significant contributor to the problem.

 

[GP403]

I want to see the relevant sections of this proposal before I start knee-jerking ZOMG TEH GUBMINT BLAH BLAH... I looked at it, or rather tried to, but the thing is like a mile long. On the surface it looks to be related to tractor trailers, heavy duty "working" trucks/vehicles (dump trucks, construction equipment, etc.) delivery trucks, stuff like that. I imagine they want to put emission controls on these vehicles even though a lot of them could be considered for "off road" use. And of course that means ZOMG THEYS COMING FOR MY RACECARS AND PIT WAGONS!1!!one!!eleven.

I believe this is the proposal in question: http://www3.epa.gov/otaq/climate/regs-heavy-duty.htm

The sky is not falling. Yet. Chill.

 

[pontiacgp]

I agree the sky isn't falling yet but I think it it is harder to change something after it's in place than it is to stop it

 

[joesregalproject]

I have to disagree. Dirty air is a reality. I live 40 miles from Oklahoma City, and every morning on my way to work in the city I can see a brown haze over the city as I drive in. I first saw this coming into Denver, CO in 1993. Driving out of the city, one does not see this boundary layer of dirt, soot, carbon and whatever else is in it.

That said, I find it hard to believe that the limited use of off-road competition vehicles is a significant contributor to the problem.

I have no problem if you have a different opinion than mine, but let me at least tell you why I have mine. I live in Pittsburgh where steel manufacturing was the largest industry for the longest time. Pollution and smog from steel mills was so bad they used to turn street lights on around 1PM so you could see your way through the smog.

Those are actual pictures of downtown Pittsburgh. However once the steel industry left, the air has become remarkably clean. I don't believe most pollution comes from automobiles, I think it comes from manufacturing and industry. Here is Pittsburgh today on an average summer day-

Secondly, at least here in PA, only the most populous counties are subject to emissions testing. 42 out of 67 counties in PA don't require emissions. If I lived 2 miles north of where I currently do, I would not be subject to annual emissions testing. If emissions from cars were really that bad, wouldn't they require the test everywhere?

I'm not trying to get too far off topic here, but I'd at least like to justify my opinion.

 

[pontiacgp]

Going after vehicles is just a feel good agenda along with more tax dollars. Houses and buildings put out emissions 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and factories put out even more.