I think hate is a strong word. It's meerly someone doubting the weight of an engine. Everything on the internet and tech manuals show 450lbs exactly, but a couple dudes on a Jeep Forum say otherwise. So, it's at an impasse.
Front Springs for 1985 Regal with 350 BUICK.
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I think the Russians have altered your internet, the Buick 455 is a little over 600 lbs....according to my internet
And? This whole second half of this thread is about the 350 😛 And yeah, the 455 is hefty. But only 30 or so more lbs than a SBC.
A couple of dudes on Jeep forum THAT ACTUALLY WEIGHED THE PARTS OF A BUICK 350.
Anyone can make a table on the internet. I have some that I made back in 1997 that are still on the internet today.
The 450 lb number has no reference and doesn't say what it includes/doesn't include. The shortblock, heads and 4bbl intake manifold alone weigh 447lbs. The pulleys, balancer, brackets, starter, alternator, carb, ignition, exhaust manifolds, head bolts, pushrods, etc don't weigh 3lbs.
This isn't hate, its facts..
Anyone can make a table on the internet. I have some that I made back in 1997 that are still on the internet today.
The 450 lb number has no reference and doesn't say what it includes/doesn't include. The shortblock, heads and 4bbl intake manifold alone weigh 447lbs. The pulleys, balancer, brackets, starter, alternator, carb, ignition, exhaust manifolds, head bolts, pushrods, etc don't weigh 3lbs.
This isn't hate, its facts..
It does still bring to mind why everyone and their mom says 450... maybe it's the shipping weight of crate replacement engines from back in the day? I have no idea where that number would even have come from.
That 450 number has floated around the internet for years but that does not mean it is accurate. If it's 450 lbs then that's about 20% lighter than a Chevy 350 so I like to see how Buick did that.
It does still bring to mind why everyone and their mom says 450... maybe it's the shipping weight of crate replacement engines from back in the day? I have no idea where that number would even have come from.
Well, it is a lighter engine. It's got more nickle in the metal the block heads and crank are made of so they are stronger and it uses less metal. It is the lightest of the all cast iron GM small blocks, that is for sure. That is what it was touted as since it came out in 1968. That much we can be sure of.
more nickle does not explain why it would be more than 100 lbs lighter than a Chevy 350. The heads of a Buick 350 and Chevy 350 weigh virtually the same. If you are sure about the weight of a Buick engine why not weigh yours and take a picture of the scale
So what is included in the weight ratings in the chart? Manifolds? Water Pump? Starter? Accessories, which ones? Carb? Distributor? Or is it just the weight of a longblock with tins and manifolds?I had a bunch of stuff to say....but, it's not worth it anymore.
Sorry, this is pre LS engines.
Sorry you guys wanna hate on Buicks.
Mine is currently in the car, so that is out of the question. And in having more nickle in the block, it makes the metal stronger. Therefore allowing the use of LESS metal to contruct the block and heads. If you look at them side by side, a Buick vs lets say a Chevy, the buick mains and main webbing are physically and visually smaller than that of a SBC. Also, buick never made a four bolt main block. Why? Because stock for stock, the blocks and bottom ends are stronger. Why? More nickel. Chevys made four bolt mains because their bottom ends barely held together in stock form.
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