Help please vaccum line

[Robs83cs]

Vaccum lines

I had always thought the computers only started be installed in some of the 85's G bodies but it looks like I've finally made my first mistake....

Yeah, I made a mistake once - thought I was wrong... (BADDA BING)

Seriously, the Olds 307 and Buick V6 came with a computer controlled carb at least as early as 1982 according to my FSM. I don't have an 81 manual, so I can't say if it was earlier.

if I were you I'd get rid of the feedback carb and any other sensors the car came with unless your wanting to keep the car original...... Those antique computers are not what you'd call dependable and those feedback carbs are terrible...

Not sure why you say that, other than just unfamiliarity with the system. The computer in my 86 has worked fine. The problem is the external sensors and actuators that go bad. The EQjet requires care in setting it up, but once you've done that (and verified that everything else is working properly and the miles of vac hose aren't leaking) the car runs great. You're entitled to your opinion, but my kid and grandkids will have to breathe this air too...

Frankly, most people who rip emissions equipment off of cars have no clue what they're doing and why, and usually end up making things worse.

another thing you might want to check....on the left side (drivers side) of intake right at the back of the engine there's a oil pressure switch that kills the engine if there's no oil pressure...you can take the connector off the sensor and hardwire the connector to test if the switch is killing the engine...

I'm pretty sure that's not how an 83 with the Buick V6 works. The only oil pressure sensor shown in the FSM is the one on the front cover (which is where the oil pump is on the Buick V6). This sensor has two wires. The tan one operates the oil idiot light and the blue one operates the electric choke.

Thanks for all your input. The first thing I really wanted to get out of the way was to make sure all the vaccum lines were in correct. once I know there o.k. I can look into the sensors. Your right it could be alot of things I have a feeling it is one of the sensers but if I can get the vaccum lines in right, it would rule that out. If somebody has a diagram or a picture it would really help out.

Thanks Rob

 

[1fast87olds]

..... sorry to hear about ur mother

 

[Robs83cs]

..... sorry to hear about ur mother

Thanks. Everybodys been very helpful. I just wish somebody had a diagram. I was working on it last night, I think I might have all the vaccum lines right. I have the car in the garage it was to late to start it last night so I'll have to see today how it runs. THanks again for everybodys help.

 

[pontiacgp]

Not sure why you say that, other than just unfamiliarity with the system. The computer in my 86 has worked fine. The problem is the external sensors and actuators that go bad. The EQjet requires care in setting it up, but once you've done that (and verified that everything else is working properly and the miles of vac hose aren't leaking) the car runs great. You're entitled to your opinion, but my kid and grandkids will have to breathe this air too...

Frankly, most people who rip emissions equipment off of cars have no clue what they're doing and why, and usually end up making things worse.

as for the carb they were only a feedback carb is very difficult to set up and not worth the trouble.....as far as emissions go my vehicle passed the emissions test with no problems with the cat, pcv and egr still installed..my vehicle no longer goes through an emission test but I keep the car maintained and is probably running cleaner than it was meant to..

 

[Robs83cs]

Not sure why you say that, other than just unfamiliarity with the system. The computer in my 86 has worked fine. The problem is the external sensors and actuators that go bad. The EQjet requires care in setting it up, but once you've done that (and verified that everything else is working properly and the miles of vac hose aren't leaking) the car runs great. You're entitled to your opinion, but my kid and grandkids will have to breathe this air too...

Frankly, most people who rip emissions equipment off of cars have no clue what they're doing and why, and usually end up making things worse.

as for the carb they were only a feedback carb is very difficult to set up and not worth the trouble.....as far as emissions go my vehicle passed the emissions test with no problems with the cat, pcv and egr still installed..my vehicle no longer goes through an emission test but I keep the car maintained and is probably running cleaner than it was meant to..

I tried the car this morning and its the same problem, does anyone know where the black plastic hose on the ball goes , theres a black hose and a pink hose on a plastic ball I have the pink one on correct I just dont know where the black one goes also could it be the oxegen senser causing it to stall.
Rob

 

[pontiacgp]

that ball is a vaccum resevoir and if it hooked up backwards it won't work.....that black hose should be connect to a vaccum source

 

[joe_padavano]

as for the carb they were only a feedback carb is very difficult to set up and not worth the trouble.....as far as emissions go my vehicle passed the emissions test with no problems with the cat, pcv and egr still installed..my vehicle no longer goes through an emission test but I keep the car maintained and is probably running cleaner than it was meant to..

Again, by following the FSM procedures I've had no problems with setting up the electronic Qjet.

As for emissions testing, the misunderstood part of this is that annual emissions tests are only a spot check. They only test the car at one (or at most two) RPM points. The assumption is that if the car passes the spot check and if all the equipment is hooked up, then it will have acceptable emissions at all the other operating conditions. This is a compromise since it would be virtually impossible to test cars using the much more involved process that automakers must follow.

 

[Robs83cs]

as for the carb they were only a feedback carb is very difficult to set up and not worth the trouble.....as far as emissions go my vehicle passed the emissions test with no problems with the cat, pcv and egr still installed..my vehicle no longer goes through an emission test but I keep the car maintained and is probably running cleaner than it was meant to..

Again, by following the FSM procedures I've had no problems with setting up the electronic Qjet.

As for emissions testing, the misunderstood part of this is that annual emissions tests are only a spot check. They only test the car at one (or at most two) RPM points. The assumption is that if the car passes the spot check and if all the equipment is hooked up, then it will have acceptable emissions at all the other operating conditions. This is a compromise since it would be virtually impossible to test cars using the much more involved process that automakers must follow.

I've tried hooking the black hose to a vaccume line so I guess that isn't it. I think its one of the sensers. The emissions I'd like to keep stock. I want to keep the car in original condition. Short of a frame off resteration I've kept the car in great shape it really just needs a paint job and new vinal top. hopefully I'll get it soon befor I go insane. Thanks for your help Rob

 

[pontiacgp]

As for emissions testing, the misunderstood part of this is that annual emissions tests are only a spot check. They only test the car at one (or at most two) RPM points. The assumption is that if the car passes the spot check and if all the equipment is hooked up, then it will have acceptable emissions at all the other operating conditions. This is a compromise since it would be virtually impossible to test cars using the much more involved process that automakers must follow.

it's a money grab....nothing new when it comes to the gov on either side of the border..

 

[pontiacgp]

I've tried hooking the black hose to a vaccume line so I guess that isn't it. I think its one of the sensers

if it is a vaccum resevoir then it would have a one way valve on it...how big is that vaccum line?....