I need help to buy my first g body
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I have the same 305 in my cutlass
Your rear tires are safe 😅
Your rear tires are safe 😅
From ElCam's list and the picture of the decal, JE1, LG4 from the list both show up on the car tag just as a start. The first item is the export brakes and the second is for the 305 cid motor. Over there you would call it a 5 litre. So you are pretty much on your way to identifying what all went into your new ride.
Nick
Nick
I wish that was still the truth today. But the chip shortage really hinders that discount.
When I dug into checking what was available for '84 all US market cars only had V6's to choose from as the Canadian market cars had the 305 with the same V6's. Nothing was coming up for the 307. '84 was the only year with no US V8 option. '82, '83, '85 could of had the diesel V8. Starting in '86 the 307 was the only V8 option. All those years Canadian cars could of had the 305 with the 307 also starting in '86. I'm thinking export models might of used the Canadian engine options.
Wouldn't surprise me any. Several of the GM plants down east around Toronto and Oshawa ran G lines. GM put the 305 in everything. it is about as ubiquitous as the Model T. I have a vortec version of it sitting on a dolly in my shop and a pullout from a 78 Camaro languishing in a shed at my cousins. The one in my 85 Monte is a year match to the body/drivetrain that I scored and stashed for that project.
However, The vin number for the vehicle does include a letter that should identify the plant from which it came.
All of the below is abstracted from the general information section in my Genuine, OEM GM Monte Service Manual. and if right, surprise, surprise............
1G4AM47H8EH454108 breaks out as follows.
The first "1" designates it as a US made vehicle. A"2" in that same location would make it Canadian made.
The two numbers, "47" designate the vehicle as being a Coupe, 2 Dr, Notchback, Special.
The first "H" tells you it is an LG4, 5.0 L V-8, 4BBL, and that it was stock to that make/model of G-Body.
The "E" makes it a 1984.
The 8 is there as a check number.
The "H" tells us that the plant where it was made was in Flint, Michigan.
The last six digits are the serial number or the sequence number.
How'm I doin' so far??
So the big surprise here is that, according to the serial number that appeared on that list on the decal, his car is American Made and built in Flint.
Now it is always possible that the basic assembly of the cabin to the chassis was done in Flint, which would explain why the vehicle has a US made designator, but after that it was shipped north to Oshawa for final assembly and fit out but that just don't seem likely.
Plus, 38 years after the fact, details and anecdotal history tends to get blurry and fade away.
A BOP service manual specific to Buick/Olds/Pontiac might offer a few more details that the Chev version doesn't.
Nick
Nick
However, The vin number for the vehicle does include a letter that should identify the plant from which it came.
All of the below is abstracted from the general information section in my Genuine, OEM GM Monte Service Manual. and if right, surprise, surprise............
1G4AM47H8EH454108 breaks out as follows.
The first "1" designates it as a US made vehicle. A"2" in that same location would make it Canadian made.
The two numbers, "47" designate the vehicle as being a Coupe, 2 Dr, Notchback, Special.
The first "H" tells you it is an LG4, 5.0 L V-8, 4BBL, and that it was stock to that make/model of G-Body.
The "E" makes it a 1984.
The 8 is there as a check number.
The "H" tells us that the plant where it was made was in Flint, Michigan.
The last six digits are the serial number or the sequence number.
How'm I doin' so far??
So the big surprise here is that, according to the serial number that appeared on that list on the decal, his car is American Made and built in Flint.
Now it is always possible that the basic assembly of the cabin to the chassis was done in Flint, which would explain why the vehicle has a US made designator, but after that it was shipped north to Oshawa for final assembly and fit out but that just don't seem likely.
Plus, 38 years after the fact, details and anecdotal history tends to get blurry and fade away.
A BOP service manual specific to Buick/Olds/Pontiac might offer a few more details that the Chev version doesn't.
Nick
Nick
Dont let the low power of the 305 cloud your thinking, 15 years prior to that car being built american v8s were making nearly double the horsepower. but, if youre allowed to switching to 3.42 gears and an overdrive (th2004r was optional in that car), it will feel a lot peppier. it's a good highway cruiser with the three speed and 2.29s.
And don't let the low HP rating deceive you in another way. By the time your ride was built, Horsepower was being described as "Net" HP as determined at the rear wheels. Older descriptions used to be taken at the flywheel. A little item called parasitic loss also has to be factored in because it too causes a difference between gross horsepower and net horsepower; ie, horsepower at the flywheel and horsepower at the rear wheel.
and don't let the 'little item called parasitic loss' trick you into thinking it was a small change in horsepower measurement when it could actually be very substantial
Yes it is a slow car but its very clean and rust free
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