"New pics 4/10" Long tube Headers hitting on right side control arm.. normal?

el camino ss 84

el camino ss 84

Master Mechanic
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All the no name or some flowtech longtube headers I've used all had to be dented a little near the passenger upper control arm which is normal unless you buy the higher end brands that are made for our cars.
 
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Doug Chahoy

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Not always, I bought high priced SS Hooker headers and had nothing but problems. That was after I sent the Flowmasters back that one side wouldn’t fit at all.
 
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mr84monte

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Nov 23, 2018
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I was recently under the car and it's even worse from the bottom. My thought is that these are no G-body headers. If they fit, I'm willing to buy American Racing Headers or Dougs, but before spending that kind of money I want to make sure they fit.
Pictures taken from looking up at the headers from below.
 
Injectedcutty

Injectedcutty

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You don't need them fancy, expensive brands unless it makes you feel better. I have run long tub hooker comp(PN#2451 I believe) and had to ding them a bit.
I switched to Hedman mid length last time around and they fit like a dream! PN#68600
 
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mr84monte

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Nov 23, 2018
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You don't need them fancy, expensive brands unless it makes you feel better. I have run long tub hooker comp(PN#2451 I believe) and had to ding them a bit.
I switched to Hedman mid length last time around and they fit like a dream! PN#68600
It's not that I "want" to spend the money for a fancy brand, but if they are the best fitting ones without interference, I'm willing. The guy who sold me the engine and headers had them in his 86' Monte, so I had assumed that there were no clearance issues. Then of course after I had them coated and he installed them, he told me that it wasn't necessarily about the fit as much as it was about making HP. Anyone think that the headers rubbing on the control arms like that wold cause a shimmy at hwy speeds? Very noticeable when you do a quick pull.
 
Injectedcutty

Injectedcutty

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It's not that I "want" to spend the money for a fancy brand, but if they are the best fitting ones without interference, I'm willing. The guy who sold me the engine and headers had them in his 86' Monte, so I had assumed that there were no clearance issues. Then of course after I had them coated and he installed them, he told me that it wasn't necessarily about the fit as much as it was about making HP. Anyone think that the headers rubbing on the control arms like that wold cause a shimmy at hwy speeds? Very noticeable when you do a quick pull.
Geez, that guy screwed you around. The difference between mid length and long tube headers isn't that huge of a difference in the HP dept....there are tons of hours and videos showing that. Actually, the typical difference made is in the upper RPMS where most people aren't even driving....only in drag or circle track apps, and still it may be like 7-10hp.
 
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mr84monte

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Nov 23, 2018
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One thing that I just though of and maybe why the headers aren't a great fit. I have Vortec heads. Will normal G-body headers work on the Vortec heads? Thinking that possibly he matched them to the head and not the car??
 
84GP455

84GP455

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I agree with the others, a few dings won't matter much but I would be more worried about the lack of room for engine movement which could do more damage to the headers.
 
83beater

83beater

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I was recently under the car and it's even worse from the bottom. My thought is that these are no G-body headers. If they fit, I'm willing to buy American Racing Headers or Dougs, but before spending that kind of money I want to make sure they fit.
Pictures taken from looking up at the headers from below.
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I was recently under the car and it's even worse from the bottom. My thought is that these are no G-body headers. If they fit, I'm willing to buy American Racing Headers or Dougs, but before spending that kind of money I want to make sure they fit.
Pictures taken from looking up at the headers from below.
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Yes you need to ding it there .I need mine up and marked where I needed to ding them
 

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