ponitac is going going gone!

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beermonkey9417

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seems that GM is going to drop the Pontiac name. so maybe theyll make the new G8T a chevy el camino! if they make it at all and chrysler is going down the tubes as well. oh and DEAR GOD THE SWINE FLU! well at least the good news for the ponte guys is that yer cars value is gonna SKYROCKET and thats just what we need, expensive car parts lol
 
well, no, and i think thats a good thing. i dont wanna se a 94 delta 88 going 12 grand. but a 70's 442 going for that much or more, i can see that.
but id think the 78-80-something pontes in good shape doing better.
 
Yeah, but AMC has been out of business since 1988 and their values have no gone up because of it. The models people want may go up, but other than that no one will really care. However, it will not be the death of the brand that drives the values up. I don't think there is a large enough fan base for Pontiac to do that or else they would still be around.
 
stupidity

Stupidity on GMs part - Caddy and Buick go after the same old guy wearing hats crowd, Chev is the cheap line and price - Pontiac at least was sporty and had a 90+ year history. Just a point of interest for you guys in the States - Pontiac has a 26% market share in Canada, and I for one will buy a rice eater over a Chev or Buick cheap/old man car and I think a lot of other people will as well. They should have dropped Saturn, SAAB, Hummer etc as they are doing and kept what they had left and just amalgamated all the remaining brands into single dealerships. And why do you need the same exact truck with Chev and GM tags? SHould have dropped one or the other. They also should have kept the GP and Grand Am names - look at Ford losing sales when they dropped the Taurus name.
Bad decisions at a badly run (now government owned) company. I know a guy in North Dakota with two small rural GM dealerships, I wouldn't want to be him right now, he may loose the whole shooting match.
 
Well, why don't I beat the dead horse one more time, eh?

The fault is not really at GM; they have made bad decisions, sure, but the root cause of all of these problems lies with _ AHEM, AHEM - the federal government. Are you surprised? If you are, it is because you don't know history and you haven't learned it yet.

GM did pretty well charging hard right into the 1960's, as history would lead us to believe. The simple math equation that led to good sales? All they did was BUILD CARS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANTED TO BUY!! For the economy customers, you could get a little Chevy or a Buick Special with a small, efficient engine. For the family guy there was the station wagon or numerous 4 door sedans. There were pickups in every size and power range. Standard or Automatic? You choose; not just what we have to give you but what do you want? Big block? Okay...

Now enter the lovely (and don't forget super, super smart) federal government. Now we have safety laws and the cars have to be changed to fit those regulations. So, they start to get ugly. Then you have environmental regulations, now they are ugly and slow and inefficient. Then there are fuel mileage laws to fix the flaw with the environmental laws, and on and on. Thanks to all these regs, the government forced the auto industry to build cars that the public didn't want. Just when the auto industry figured out how to beat the game (remember the Grand National, G-body lovers?) new and improved government regs came to save the day and kill the good stuff.

Here's a trick that most liberal wackos don't know about. Those horrible, environmentally unfriendly cars from the 60's? Another lie. Out in the land of American communism (known as the people's republic of California) they have horribly strict laws. It's because they care about the air, right? WRONG. If they cared about clean air then they would care about only what comes out of the tail pipe. Why the visual inspection? The government gets more money from state inspection fees, that's why. My 65 Buick Special gave cleaner numbers at the tail pipe than many newer cars who were within their government standards. The secret? Good compression and a recent tune-up. No catalytic converter (government mandate), no EGR (more government) and no fuel injection.

Let the blame rests where it is deserved; THANKS GOVERNMENT!! you jerks....

The Japanese government actually subsidized its entire auto industry until the 80's so that they could gain market share. Does that sound fair?

Stupid government, helping us again...

Good bye Pontiac. You will be missed. You HAVE been missed since the early 90's anyway!!
 
Yea it does seem that GM should have kept Pontiac especially with their sporty cars that seem to generate interest.

But I was watching a press conference and the CEO said that GM has decided to keep the brands that have the highest sales overall and Pontiac didn't make the cut. Its too bad...
 
actually fyi the corvette is dead too
 
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