pontiacgp said:I tried those "shorty" headers and they are where they belong..in the garbage....if you look at the photo of the drivers side you almost have to bend the pipe 90 degrees to get it to travel in that opening in front of the pan..and then you have to oval that pipe so it will fit in that opening.......instead I installed some full length Hedmans with a ball and socket collector and they are made to give alot of ground clearance
i disagree on that one, i would sat those shorys if done right are some of the best fitting i have seen, migth not be the straitest path possible but the benefits of the shorties are there. these pics are of the exhaust hanging in my basement, the pipes are pushed apart up front cause of the way i have it hung but you can get the idea. at first i wasnt happy with them but after the shop was done i was 100% happy with them. those mid length headers are nice also but if you have shorties and do not want to run the dual exhaust cross member then these are a great option.