Orion, nice. Haven't heard from them in awhile. So anyways, I've got this stack of old factory Delco, Ford and Chrysler factory radios. Maybe theres even some 8 tracks or record players or something. Hey guy that says subs sound like mufflers falling off, wanna buy some high quality 1980's factory sterieos??? I think I've even got some 4x10's out of my 86 monte. Want those too? lol j/k Even though factory sterieos are in fact sounding alot better then the did before, they still do not even begin to compair to the billion dollar a year aftermarket world. I've had 2 olds auroras now, one was a 95 with a factory bose system, and get this only a tape deck, yeah, bose cassette. My other was a 97 with the standard tape/cd non bose system. The 97 sounded better right out of the box. Then with a different deck, some diamond audio highs, ppi amps, and earthquake magma subs, I was winning trophys. Can't do that with a factory sterieo.