Store with full tank or empty?

Guys claim it cleans the carbon off of stuff
If that is so then every two stroke outboard should have sparkling clean piston tops. I can tell you right now that is not the case. These guys touting that are using minute percentages, while I use 50;1 mix. To tell the truth, every outboard I have ever taken apart had about the same carbon on the pistons as any 4 stroke engine. If you really want to go old school, just remove the air cleaner and slowly pour a glass of water down the throat of the carb. That turns to steam in the combustion chamber and does clean carbon off.

Then if that is true, since the alcohol they put in the gas absorbs any moisture, we should all be getting the benefit of the steam bath all the time, right? I remember when they first stared putting alcohol in. The parts place I used had cases of DryGas no one was buying because of the alcohol in the gas. I bought a bunch of cases but to use it for cleaning brake parts and carburetors.
 
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If that is so then every two stroke outboard should have sparkling clean piston tops. I can tell you right now that is not the case. These guys touting that are using minute percentages, while I use 50;1 mix. To tell the truth, every outboard I have ever taken apart had about the same carbon on the pistons as any 4 stroke engine. If you really want to go old school, just remove the air cleaner and slowly pour a glass of water down the throat of the carb. That turns to steam in the combustion chamber and does clean carbon off.

Then if that is true, since the alcohol they put in the gas absorbs any moisture, we should all be getting the benefit of the steam bath all the time, right? I remember when they first stared putting alcohol in. The parts place I used had cases of DryGas no one was buying because of the alcohol in the gas. I bought a bunch of cases but to use it for cleaning brake parts and carburetors.
a thought occurs...is that one of the reasons why they have ethanol in gas at gas stations?
 
a thought occurs...is that one of the reasons why they have ethanol in gas at gas stations?

I thought the govt was subsiding corn because ethanol reduces emissions.

that's why I asked if it was ONE of the reasons? (a good side benefit?)
All correct. Before alcohol in the gas, any water would freeze and you were skewered until it thawed. A buddy in Brooklyn filled up at a strange gas station and before he went a block his 240Z started acting up. That night it froze and he was stuck for three weeks without a car. I disconnected his fuel line and ran some gas from a can into the carbs just to prove it was the gas and not a broken engine. They sold small bottles of DryGas or whatever to absorb the water and burn it up with the gas. You added it with every fill-up. Now it is already in the gas.

Then they discovered alcohol could reduce emissions if blended with gasoline. Alcohol has about half the BTU's as gasoline so they can only add so much without killing mileage. Alcohol racers must use double the size of carburetor jets to get the same power as gas. But it burns super clean.

Another 'benefit' is that the alcohol cleans all the crud out of your system. When we first started using it, we went through gas filters like crazy. Every bit of rust and gunk got scoured and sent to the carb. After a while you have a wonderfully clean system. It also causes the gas in your carb to evaporate faster. After a few days of not using the Bonnewagon, I have to crank a while to fill the carb bowl. But that gives the oil a chance to circulate before the engine fires up.
 
This is what I've been running in Jr.'s Monte to move it around the house & to allow it to sit without running for extended periods. Was in the car last winter & with typical requied steps fired right up this past spring. Lowe's used to sell it in the quart cans (which I bought up on clearance) but now only in the 110 oz can. I use the 2 stroke fuel in my yard tools too.
I'm going to going to suggest methanol a small bottle fir drying ice or water out of tanks..I don't like stable and I have my reasons worst come to worst someday your going to have to get a tank if rust gets bad and some day your going to need replace the coupling hoses of course if you can afford ethanol free but even Ethol's been around since the 70s maybe before..thanks I just meant to reply but I got your post... paygrent..
 
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I'm going to going to suggest methanol a small bottle fir drying ice or water out of tanks..I don't like stable and I have my reasons worst come to worst someday your going to have to get a tank if rust gets bad and some day your going to need replace the coupling hoses of course if you can afford ethanol free but even Ethol's been around since the 70s maybe before..thanks I just meant to reply but I got your post... paygrent..
For Jr.'s car right now the tank is out of service until it gets dropped & cleaned. Current method for fedding it is a plastic Amazon 1L ATV tank on the rad support. When it does get ran I usally run it empty so I won't be worried about. With that 10% of corn juice, my '81's owners manual even said from back them 10% was the max amount run. Nothing in the '79's owners manual about it. I know in over 34 years of having it I ran it in my car even with out knowing it at times.
 
Ethol's been around since the 70s
Way back when they first took the lead out of the gas, Texaco sold Gasahol. It was offered to replace the lead and it was a very high octane. It did work quite well. I found that even with high compression Pontiac heads, I had no pinging. A side bonus was the mileage increase. On a road trip from NYC to Pittsburgh, I managed almost 20mpg with a 1969 Pontiac 400 and 3:55 rear gears. The problem was that it still lacked lead and I eventually suffered valve seat recession. It wasn't until 1973 that they added hardened valve seats to survive the lack of lead.
 
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