Yeah, I was attacked for exactly those reasons in this thread🙄. You guys just really seem angry I haven't been impressed by the LS. Mike picked at me in thread and I responded back with my experience of STOCK, truck LS engines and why I really don't want one in anything. This thread was created in an angry response to my response🤷♂️. It is the factory ratings, very inflated feeling that make me a harsh critic. Same with the 4L60E, they fail often and people more intelligent and more experienced won't bother with them because of their issues. One of the ones I cooked was towing, next to nothing in the lacking low end torque 5.3 LS work truck. The Olds engines I run were rated at 160 hp from the factory, it can only go up from there. You do realize why most of my posts lately have been about my Challenger? Because I drove it nearly Everyday, 4 hours a day to almost see my Wife die. It is a great car, has what a lot modern vehicles lack, style. What motor am I building? Of course, it is an Olds 350. I have finally run out of cheap, good running motors. How many good running original LS will there be when they turn 45? You guys let this go, I will too. It has been a great distraction from real life FYI. And no everything I do is far from perfect. I seem to cling to the not so strong from the factory 2004R, it just has nearly perfect ratios and size. No cutting and hacking and expensive drive shaft mods needed for a 700R4/4L60E or 4L80E need. I just need to pony up $1000 US, spend a lot of time to make an honest performance transmission out of one. Maybe I have been annoying lately, I am a little off right now.