Brother Al when you sleep with snakes you get bitten, when you sleep with dogs you get bitten by fleas, great chronology which I do not doubt but how do you get caught with $24 mill in a suitcase saying on camera "It's better than gold." & only get 10 days in jail due to scraping up bail money, the only better setup is in Canada where you can murder someone, get 8 years ,get double time credit while court case goes on (maybe 24 months if you and your lawyer stretch it) with good behaviour your out in another year, but he was so desperate he would do anything, my last hijack I did have a nice 1980 grand prix but its not like my malibu
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Yes, he said it, and if you watch that video, you'll notice that he's not exactly talking in a way that seems comfortable and smooth for a guy that was once GMs Vice President and routinely made multi-million dollar deals... This was awkward, he seems almost naive and dumbfounded when he said it... because that little brick WAS worth so much.
What I stated were the facts presented in court... beyond the edited 60 Minutes video clip... when all the facts were presented, the Feds pretty much admitted, cockedly even, that they had indeed used cocaine they had already seized & had manufactured the entire case, hence legal grounds for an entrapment defense and the not guilty finding. From DeLorean's perspective, being stuck in the midst of the IRA Bombing Blitz and British Govt loans , plus gathering funding from where ever he could... he was a desperate man who owed a lot of money to a lot people, including the British Govt, and would be screwed if DMC failed... which it did and he was. Obtaining investment from drug cartels is one thing... suddenly finding out that you're tied into a cocaine deal is another... At no point during DeLorean's well publicized life, was he ever noted as using cocaine or other drug use...
I can appreciate the idea that he thought he'd get some investment money, then realized he was in waaay over his head. At that time, drug cartels killed people routinely for whatever reason, especially for unfavorable drug deals. I fully believe that he thought he could get some quick investment and get DMC past its financial difficulty... when the cocaine connection/deal came into play, I am sure he sh*t himself his own brick. You don't talk to a Drug Cartel or the Mafia about money, then say "No" when they "give you an offer you can't refuse".... typically you'd end up dead... hence the reason he sent the letter to his lawyer...
Draw whatever conclusions you want to, but there was not enough evidence to convict DeLorean... He was found Not Guilty and if you go through the details and evidence of the trial, there are a lot of things that don't add up in the FBI's case... a number of things came to light in the 30-odd years since the trial that indicate there was a lot more behind the scenes and DeLorean rubbed a lot of powerful people the wrong way in the 70's... ahem, conspira...cough, cough...cy. The FBI doesn't lose many cases...especially big ones... they lost this one VERY Publicly and DeLorean still lost... it ruined him. More than a few Big Wheels in Detroit were happy about it too.
What I stated were the facts presented in court... beyond the edited 60 Minutes video clip... when all the facts were presented, the Feds pretty much admitted, cockedly even, that they had indeed used cocaine they had already seized & had manufactured the entire case, hence legal grounds for an entrapment defense and the not guilty finding. From DeLorean's perspective, being stuck in the midst of the IRA Bombing Blitz and British Govt loans , plus gathering funding from where ever he could... he was a desperate man who owed a lot of money to a lot people, including the British Govt, and would be screwed if DMC failed... which it did and he was. Obtaining investment from drug cartels is one thing... suddenly finding out that you're tied into a cocaine deal is another... At no point during DeLorean's well publicized life, was he ever noted as using cocaine or other drug use...
I can appreciate the idea that he thought he'd get some investment money, then realized he was in waaay over his head. At that time, drug cartels killed people routinely for whatever reason, especially for unfavorable drug deals. I fully believe that he thought he could get some quick investment and get DMC past its financial difficulty... when the cocaine connection/deal came into play, I am sure he sh*t himself his own brick. You don't talk to a Drug Cartel or the Mafia about money, then say "No" when they "give you an offer you can't refuse".... typically you'd end up dead... hence the reason he sent the letter to his lawyer...
Draw whatever conclusions you want to, but there was not enough evidence to convict DeLorean... He was found Not Guilty and if you go through the details and evidence of the trial, there are a lot of things that don't add up in the FBI's case... a number of things came to light in the 30-odd years since the trial that indicate there was a lot more behind the scenes and DeLorean rubbed a lot of powerful people the wrong way in the 70's... ahem, conspira...cough, cough...cy. The FBI doesn't lose many cases...especially big ones... they lost this one VERY Publicly and DeLorean still lost... it ruined him. More than a few Big Wheels in Detroit were happy about it too.
Big Al all your points are valid, all your legal arguments are valid, and I would never question your well proven research done in your posts, however as an average joe who doesn't do any drugs I am a little concerned that if I got caught with 1/10th of what he did whether weed, pills or coke I would be doing a minimum 10 x the time he did (& I know you know that's being more than generous) to the legal system north or south of the 49th.
(PS spoken from 46 yr old grandfather with custody of 7yr old granddaughter for the last 6-1/2 years thanks to drugs, pardon the lack of sympathy to John)
(PS spoken from 46 yr old grandfather with custody of 7yr old granddaughter for the last 6-1/2 years thanks to drugs, pardon the lack of sympathy to John)
No problem and Thank You.
I'm a Court Officer by day, so my perspective is based upon 14 years on the job. Im not saying what he did was right, but at the time, cocaine was only just starting to become a national scourge & desperate people can do very stupid things... for DeLorean, the experience changed him for the better and humbled him... Had he been a coke fiend, & been known to go out of his way to screw people, then I'd probably feel differently, however John was not known to be a scoundel in any way, save for the DMC debacle... He was very adamant about making cars and products better and safer. He also did a lot, during his time at GM, to improve employee-management relations, working conditions, & customer satisfaction. It was those very things that ultimately made him leave GM in disgust... because GM Brass had a completely different view: "screw everyone and line our pockets". He had risen through GMs ranks rapidly and was set to be the GM President sometime in the later 70's, but he couldn't stand being there anymore because of their ideology.
I fully appreciate your situation and views as well, and Im VERY sorry to hear that. Thankfully, it sounds like your Grandaughter is in great, loving hands... Sadly, there are hundreds of thousands that are not as fortunate... God Bless You and Your Family.
Ive seen the carnage that illegal and prescription drug abuse causes, repeatedly, 5 days a week... trust me when I say I have ZERO sympathy for those in the drug trade... and above all, Heroin is THE single worst thing out there these days... truely an epidemic. My prayers to you and yours.
I'm a Court Officer by day, so my perspective is based upon 14 years on the job. Im not saying what he did was right, but at the time, cocaine was only just starting to become a national scourge & desperate people can do very stupid things... for DeLorean, the experience changed him for the better and humbled him... Had he been a coke fiend, & been known to go out of his way to screw people, then I'd probably feel differently, however John was not known to be a scoundel in any way, save for the DMC debacle... He was very adamant about making cars and products better and safer. He also did a lot, during his time at GM, to improve employee-management relations, working conditions, & customer satisfaction. It was those very things that ultimately made him leave GM in disgust... because GM Brass had a completely different view: "screw everyone and line our pockets". He had risen through GMs ranks rapidly and was set to be the GM President sometime in the later 70's, but he couldn't stand being there anymore because of their ideology.
I fully appreciate your situation and views as well, and Im VERY sorry to hear that. Thankfully, it sounds like your Grandaughter is in great, loving hands... Sadly, there are hundreds of thousands that are not as fortunate... God Bless You and Your Family.
Ive seen the carnage that illegal and prescription drug abuse causes, repeatedly, 5 days a week... trust me when I say I have ZERO sympathy for those in the drug trade... and above all, Heroin is THE single worst thing out there these days... truely an epidemic. My prayers to you and yours.
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