Videos about gas conspiracy.
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well i tried to watch it. but when i have to hear more bullshit about how the president is the only one responible for the gas prices.... never mind that they started going up under clinton. or that he kept talking about releasing the strategic reserves to keep us stupid and happy, but never did it. is clinton solely responsible? no is bush solely responsible? no.
his statements before that about alaska and russia having massive quantities of crude has been known for decades!!!!! we have plenty of oil in our own country if we'd only drill for it (and stop selling oil to other countries). what i don't get is, i just heard today that they want to drill in the nature preserve/indian reservation in southern alaska. WHY! if you go north there's shitloads of oil, and virtually zero life. drill that before you destroy a heavily forested area with lots of wildlife.
his statements before that about alaska and russia having massive quantities of crude has been known for decades!!!!! we have plenty of oil in our own country if we'd only drill for it (and stop selling oil to other countries). what i don't get is, i just heard today that they want to drill in the nature preserve/indian reservation in southern alaska. WHY! if you go north there's shitloads of oil, and virtually zero life. drill that before you destroy a heavily forested area with lots of wildlife.
Toyota has a plant in Georgetown Ky they work 3 shifts starting pay is 14 a hour great employee benefits all over the plant you seen pool tables and basket ball rims for there breaks.Best one is if they go a full year with out calling in once they and there spouse or friend get to go to a high class dinner and a big name entertainment and there entered to win a new car they give away 40 a year.And guess what there not union and don't want to be.The uaw keeps trying to make them union the workers vote it down every time.
The reason we sell half the oil from the Alaskan pipeline to Japan, is that was part of our agreement with them when they paid for half of it. If we really wanted it all for ourselves, it should have been paid for by the US tax payer in full, and not financed by the Japanese and built by British Petroleum. We can't afford to ruin our relationships with either country over this issue. Maybe we can buy them out, or fund the replacement pipeline that will be needed in the next few years with Federal money, then we can legitimately take all of the oil and sell it to our citizens at a discounted rate.
andrewmp6 said:
That's because unions do not work in the modern day. Non-union shops provide incentives to do better, not a guarantee of a job if you suck. Therefore, they are more productive and keep costs down, and can afford to offer incentives to employees who do well at their job. Plus, Toyota builds a better car than GM. Not as good as Honda, but better than GM. The UAW is just trying to ensure their continued existence when they have driven the big three out of business.
megaladon6 said:
I figure from some of your other posts you are a die hard republican but as a Canadian looking in, I see a lot of Americans not looking for the truth because of their loyalties to one or the other political party.
GW has a lot to do with the high price of oil and gas. Gas prices have always been up and down during any one political parties term in office but since GW has been in power, the price of gas here has doubled. That has never happened before in my lifetime. Never happened during the Clinton years and didn't even happen with the gulf war under Sr.`s term.
Some how the republicans always find a way to turn it on the democrats.
One thing to remember guys, GW was an oil baron who became a politician.
A lot of what he has done and still plans to do, scares the crap out of wall street causing them to panic on the oil futures. His family money still comes from oil futures. Every time he scares the sh*t out of the stock market, he gets a little richer.
Just one mans observation who holds no loyalties to either party.
The world economic situation has changed dramatically since the Clinton years. You have to remember that the whole world does not revolve around the USA only, but rather that we are affected by the economies in other nations as well. During the Clinton years, India was just starting to deregulate itself to the point where it could get business development. China was still mostly riding bicycles. Now, both nations are using fossil fuels, and have started buying cars in massive numbers, not to mention trucks to move their manufactured products. So, the oil we used to buy on the world market has now become more scarce, and OPEC is taking full advantage of this fact by restricting supply. The oil companies do not own the oil in the ground just because they pump it out. They have to buy it from the nation they pumped it in, and those nations determine how much is sold. Additionally, oil is the new speculative bubble. It replaces real estate, and the dot coms before them. All of the speculation in the commodities futures market has also served to increase the price per barrel of crude.
Lastly, the Clinton years were a boom time because of the short sighted nature of what he did. He spent down military stockpiles to cut the deficit, which was not a real, sustainable way to balance the budget. Instead, he used up all of the stockpiled weapons, like cruise missiles, from the Regan and Bush years and stopped all new supply spending. This ensured that the next President would need to rebuild supplies. Also, the economy moved forward on artificially low interest rates a la Greenspan, and the Dot Com boom which made many feel they were flush with cash. Unfortunately, none of these things could last and did not. The Republicans wanted to drill in ANWAR during the 90's, but Clinton refused to allow it in fear of upsetting the Eco-terrorists like Earth First and Greenpeace. Oil was only $10 a barrel back then, and it was so cheap that many wells were capped in this country as it was not profitable to keep them in operation. Unfortunately, we are not allowed to open those wells again, despite a huge market demand for it. No one was feeling bad for the oil companies when they were teetering on bankruptcy in the 90's.
Lastly, the Clinton years were a boom time because of the short sighted nature of what he did. He spent down military stockpiles to cut the deficit, which was not a real, sustainable way to balance the budget. Instead, he used up all of the stockpiled weapons, like cruise missiles, from the Regan and Bush years and stopped all new supply spending. This ensured that the next President would need to rebuild supplies. Also, the economy moved forward on artificially low interest rates a la Greenspan, and the Dot Com boom which made many feel they were flush with cash. Unfortunately, none of these things could last and did not. The Republicans wanted to drill in ANWAR during the 90's, but Clinton refused to allow it in fear of upsetting the Eco-terrorists like Earth First and Greenpeace. Oil was only $10 a barrel back then, and it was so cheap that many wells were capped in this country as it was not profitable to keep them in operation. Unfortunately, we are not allowed to open those wells again, despite a huge market demand for it. No one was feeling bad for the oil companies when they were teetering on bankruptcy in the 90's.
I told you they always find a way to blame the democrats. :lol:
So why doesn't GW use his veto powers and open up those wells again?
Why is GW using his veto powers to actually shut of more and ban any more off shore drilling?
If he opened them up again, the price per barrel would fall. I know OPEC is a b*tch but they don't own the stock market. If supplies open up somewhere else, it puts the stock market at ease.
I know, blame China and India. It seems like its the republican thing to do these days.
So why doesn't GW use his veto powers and open up those wells again?
Why is GW using his veto powers to actually shut of more and ban any more off shore drilling?
If he opened them up again, the price per barrel would fall. I know OPEC is a b*tch but they don't own the stock market. If supplies open up somewhere else, it puts the stock market at ease.
I know, blame China and India. It seems like its the republican thing to do these days.
Veto power is only good if the legislation crosses his desk, he can't write the legislation necessary to allow it and present it to Congress. Go study your Constitution and see what powers are delegated to each branch of government. Congress is the legislative branch, not the Presidency. The President can veto a law passed by Congress and prevent it from being implemented. The Congress can override the veto by a 2/3 majority. Everyone always wants to blame the President because it is easier to blame one person, than 2 legislative bodies, one of which has 435 members, and the other 100 members.
i've said it many times before, i am nether a democrat nor a republican, nor any othe party. i am an AMERICAN!!! i do tend to agree with the republican views more than the democrat views, that is correct. but look at our democrats since FDR and truman. (by the way they are 2 of my favorite presidents.)
i never said that bush is not at all responsible for gas prices, i did say that he is not the ONLY one responsible. the 2 biggest real reasons for gas inflation--speculators and OPEC keeping supply right at (sometimes a little under) demand.
how much is gas in canada? i'm gonna guess it's pretty high. is that bush's fault? why, you have your own untapped oil fields. hell, most of the ANWR is in your backyard! you could drill it, refine it, and laugh at us all day long.
i never said that bush is not at all responsible for gas prices, i did say that he is not the ONLY one responsible. the 2 biggest real reasons for gas inflation--speculators and OPEC keeping supply right at (sometimes a little under) demand.
how much is gas in canada? i'm gonna guess it's pretty high. is that bush's fault? why, you have your own untapped oil fields. hell, most of the ANWR is in your backyard! you could drill it, refine it, and laugh at us all day long.
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