vin locations

[tony_ru]

I don't know why the cops are bothering you and I don't think anyone meant to say you are a thief. Like I said I would contact GM directly and see what help they can offer..

i thought about it,but first I want to get an official response from the police.
all I know is that the officer thought that vin is removed from under the back seat (they need something except vin plate under the glass)

 

[pontiacgp]

there is no metal plate or metal stamped vin placed under the seat....If the police say there is let them prove it to you that there is supposed to be one there....have them join this forum or have them contact GM

 

[454muscle]

Holy crap. Just to second that and confirm, and let your Russion cop friend, Tony_ru, read this for himself: THERE IS NO VIN TAG UNDER ANY SEAT ON ANY GBODY CAR INCLUDING THE BUICK REGAL. Tell that Russian cop to take that back seat and shove it up his *ss. All he can do is tell you to get the door sticker replaced.

it's not official, but there is a way to get the door sticker reproduced and replaced. Will have to search this forum, I've done it on my Grand Prix.

 

[pontiacgp]

I was talking to a friend who is known for his work on Grand Nationals and he told me the company who built the Grand Nationals for GM did place vin plates in different parts of the car and there was one in a hidden spot so the car could be easily identified to be an original GN. He assumes the GNX also got the same treatment. No other GM G body that came from directly from the GM factory has any other vin tag than the one at the base of the front windshield.

 

[Blake442]

Not to discredit your pal Steve, but...
Grand Nationals were built inhouse and have no more VIN plates than any other G-body to roll off the line.
GNX's are said to have a special plate that was thrown into the cars that were to be pulled off the assembly line and finished by ASC/McLaren. Many GNX owners reported finding the plates under the carpet, though they were actually supposed to be removed and discarded before it was installed.

As far as the other claims go, again, more different claims, none of which are backed up with photographic proof. I will continute to believe there are no additional markings until I see them with my own eyes...

 

[pontiacgp]

Blake, ....this friend of mine does know his stuff about GN's.. http://www.tctc.com/~avblefty/82gn.htm

THE DESIGNS..............

After "quoting" for the project was completed, "Cars & Concepts" from Auburn Hills, MI. was chosen to implement the final design and retrofit all GN components.

Cars & Concepts was a world leader in vehicular design, conversions and coach building with facilities across the U.S. They have been responsible for development of many successful vehicle introductions such as the Pontiac Banshee (prototype), the Pontiac Transport minivan, the 83/84 Hurst Olds, Camaros, Firebird & Mustang convertibles, and most recently the Cadillac Seville STS.

According to Dave draper, the original Chairman of the Board at Cars & Concepts, Regals were picked off the production line at different times, usually 10 to 15 at a time. This accounts for the random VIN serial numbers. Mr. Draper remembers sitting up until 2:30 A.M hand cutting and installing the Grand National lettering on the front fenders; which strangely were not used on any of the 215 production units. Instead, the grand National emblems designed by Mr. Rollin Sanders "molly" were used. It's now clear that all promo photos showed this lettering "grand National" on the front fenders nut not the emblem that were actually used.

 

[Blake442]

You're right... Cars & Concepts built the '82s. I seem to forget out those... :lol:
'84-'87s were built right on the assembly line with the other Buicks.

 

[pontiacgp]

blake looks like your right....I can't find anything on outside production of the GN after 82 and my expert friend is spinning his words now so I got him on the run.. :lol:

and with that there isn't any other vin on the GN than what's on all of the G bodies...

 

[88hurstolds]

VIN is stamped on the frame and all body panels in code

 

[88hurstolds]

VIN is on the frame and all sheet metal, last 6 in the sequence of digits, these are hidden all over the car...