Whelp..... progress? Hellcat engine to cease production after 2023 model.

[olds307 and 403]

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Heck, look what a tuned up chevy II with the 194 inline was getting for mpgs... that was upper 20s low 30s right there.

One of my fieros, an 87 with the DIS ignition in an iron Duke was in the 40s mpg.

Fuel mileage was always there. Just not the butt dyno. You know what REALLY hurts fuel mileage?

The BIGGER wheels and tires that have taken over. Also a common thread between the tincan tercel was its 13 or 14" wheels, not the 18. 19. 20 or bigger that even cars get these days.

Not only mileage, a big cost increase. I bought some 13" tires maybe two years ago for around $50 each before the massive pile extra added on, the install, balancing, enviro fees and taxes. Good luck in finding 18" tires here for much under $200 here before all the fees. The stock 19" on the Challenger a bit more. If I buy another GT before they are gone, now standard 20" tires. I purposely went to a 18" for Winter rims, 235/60R18 vs 235/55R19. I remember when 60 series tires looked fat and thin sidewalls. Now those are almost like truck tires in comparison to everything 55 ratio or less due to the massive rims.

 

[64nailhead]

I always liked the looks of those little Rabbits, I seen one recently at a car show a few years back, it was some sort of sport model, with MK or GTI on it, Looked really good in gun metal grey and the amber lights in the front. And look at the one you had, late 70's pulling 40+MPG, and fast forward the automobile industry 40 years and cars are getting the same or less MPG!?? Its like they DELIBERATLY railroaded MPG, and most did because BIG oil was back dooring the EPA ect ect....

The funny part of my '78 VW - I bought it out of necessity ($300), because my '78 Cutlass Cruiser wagon was stolen from my girl friend's driveway. And I needed a ride to work lol.

As strange as that sounds , I married her 5 years later. 28 years and still with her despite I lost my 1st G while spending the night with her.

SMH 😉

 

[olds307 and 403]

My BIL is a big Volkswagen guy, he has a 87 GTI. My Grandpa and Uncles had the Rabbit and Jetta Diesels. They are OK, just not much of a small car guy.

 

[ck80]

The funny part of my '78 VW - I bought it out of necessity ($300), because my '78 Cutlass Cruiser wagon was stolen from my girl friend's driveway. And I needed a ride to work lol.

As strange as that sounds , I married her 5 years later. 28 years and still with her despite I lost my 1st G while spending the night with her.

SMH 😉

Girlfriends apartments suck. I visited my better half back when she was getting her bachelor's degree. Some scumbag sliced a tire on my CLK430 in the parking lot. Noticed it riding funny as the go-flat distance ran out at about 11pm middle of nowhere by a Walmart distribution center. The cars being what they were, MB roadside sent a guy out in a GLK with a roadside kit to get it on the road and limp back to Atlanta about a hour away. Was over $300 to fix it, even back then.

 

[DRIVEN]

50mpg in 1970. That's about 3/4 of a penny per mile.

 

[olds307 and 403]

50mpg in 1970. That's about 3/4 of a penny per mile.View attachment 188298

Did you have to get out and help it up steep hills? What the hell is that? Better looking than 90 percent of the cars on the road today at least.

 

[DRIVEN]

You saying 69hp isn't enough?

Datsun B110. I had 6 of them. I verified 50mpg in 2 of mine.

 

[Clone TIE Pilot]

Any engine will get much better MPGs with an overdrive transmission and proper gearing.

 

[jiho]

I respectfully disagree with 'utilities must consider costs'. Profits are their primary concern, whereas a military type operation has little to no concern of cost. The main concern is to obtain the desired outcome. I'm basing this off from the usual program of excuses to raise the price of energy that stem from fabricated sources. And I have rarely seen an energy supplier not pass on real expenses to the consumer.

But that's my point, just stated a little different.

 

[64nailhead]

You saying 69hp isn't enough?

Datsun B110. I had 6 of them. I verified 50mpg in 2 of mine.

My Austin make 48hp according to the service manual. But I overbites it another .040”, so I’m pulling for 49-51 now 😉