What did you buy for your G body today? [2022]

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Section 21 page 16 paragraph 2:14. In case you didn’t know.

I don’t know if I’m trying to build a race car or going to summer bible camp.
Just glue a little plastic airplane onto any old clamp and call it a day.

It's now an aircraft clamp. They don't like it they should be more specific.
 
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Section 21 page 16 paragraph 2:14. In case you didn’t know.

I don’t know if I’m trying to build a race car or going to summer bible camp.
I'm betting the tube & cooling lines require a fixed clamp to keep them secured......
 

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Bruce said the same thing.

Thanks.

I'm not sure how to apply a 'cushion P clamp' (what I call those things) to trans dip stick.


Thanks scoti
Yep.... Airplane clamps. Adel clamps. Cushion clamps. P-clamps..... Varying degrees of the same basic item. I recall more than one TH350/Th400 I had in my possession having them. They latched @ one of the bellhousing to block upper/corner locations.
 
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Section 21 page 16 paragraph 2:14. In case you didn’t know.

I don’t know if I’m trying to build a race car or going to summer bible camp.

Here's my interpretation-

The dipstick needs to have a flippy lever similar to anything GM OEM post 1997

And the tube top just needs to be bolted to the head or bellhousing bolt.

AKA they just don't want flexi lokar style dipsticks that can fall over on a launch and dump ATF on the exhaust.



But yeah whoever they hire to write the standards at NHRA wouldn't last a single day in ASTM, SAE, ISO or any engineering related safety standards field. Everything in their standards book needs to be read 5 times to understand and they repeatedly use circular reasoning. What does 'meet NHRA spec' mean? Is there pull force or pressure blowout requirements? They should word it as the following-

Dipstick shall be mechanically retained within the tube to withstand X lbs of pull force. The tube or sheath shall be fastened to a rigid member within X inches of the top.


The problem with NHRA specs is it's entirely up to the discretion of the inspector which should NOT be possible.

 
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Here's my interpretation-

The dipstick needs to have a flippy lever similar to anything GM OEM post 1997

And the tube top just needs to be bolted to the head or bellhousing bolt.

AKA they just don't want flexi lokar style dipsticks that can fall over on a launch and dump ATF on the exhaust.



But yeah whoever they hire to write the standards at NHRA wouldn't last a single day in ASTM, SAE, ISO or any engineering related safety standards field. Everything in their standards book needs to be read 5 times to understand and they repeatedly use circular reasoning. What does 'meet NHRA spec' mean? Is there pull force or pressure blowout requirements? They should word it as the following-

Dipstick shall be mechanically retained within the tube to withstand X lbs of pull force. The tube or sheath shall be fastened to a rigid member within X inches of the top.


The problem with NHRA specs is it's entirely up to the discretion of the inspector which should NOT be possible.

Exactly.

Bruce read my post and texted me pretty much what you said. I've cut and rewelded the dipstick tube twice now to get the factory 4L80 tube to fit. The second re-fabrication was due to the flexplate shield. I welded a tang onto it that attached the stick firmly to the rear of the passenger side head.

Not knowing what they were referencing by 'airplane clamp' threw me. I drilled a hole in the top of the actual dipstick to put a locking ring onto it to keep the dipstick in the tube. Regardless of the rules, I didn't want a fountain of trans fluid blowing on the turbo.


Thanks for the help guys. I did just as Jake mentioned, re-read it 5 times and interpreted it about 3 different ways haha.
 
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Here's my interpretation-

The dipstick needs to have a flippy lever similar to anything GM OEM post 1997

And the tube top just needs to be bolted to the head or bellhousing bolt.

AKA they just don't want flexi lokar style dipsticks that can fall over on a launch and dump ATF on the exhaust.



But yeah whoever they hire to write the standards at NHRA wouldn't last a single day in ASTM, SAE, ISO or any engineering related safety standards field. Everything in their standards book needs to be read 5 times to understand and they repeatedly use circular reasoning. What does 'meet NHRA spec' mean? Is there pull force or pressure blowout requirements? They should word it as the following-

Dipstick shall be mechanically retained within the tube to withstand X lbs of pull force. The tube or sheath shall be fastened to a rigid member within X inches of the top.


The problem with NHRA specs is it's entirely up to the discretion of the inspector which should NOT be possible.

Intentionally vague means easy to comply with ingenuity.

It's safety speak, not actual engineering speak. Very different languages.
 
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