Looks like a nice car. Probably would have a hard time duplicating it for $12k. In my opinion it's lost its collector value as a 442 but if you like it for what it is it's probably a good buy.
1983 Hurst/Olds (modified) value
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I'm not picking on your statement in particular, but this reminded me of something I've been thinking about for a while in various discussions....Is anybody REALLY looking for dead stock G bodies (aside from GNX), or do most people think that way because of where the musclecar market went?
In my mind, the G body specialty cars (again, aside from GNX) do not have the so-called "brute power" of the muscle era, so little is lost by updating (backdating?) drivetrains to something with more power.
I just don't see people 20 years from now obsessing over having the "correct" 307 in their Olds, or HO305 in their Monte SS. I think it is more driven by the idea (belief? hope?) that "someday" the car will be worth way more than the same car with a different powertrain. Given the choice of the example Qdub asked about and a dead stock example in same condition, there is no question in my mind that I'd take the modified one....but I like "drivers" more than "collectors"
I've been in contact with the seller the last few days. I'm seriously pursuing this one. I was planning on selling three of my other cars this year anyway.
As a reference, my friend bought an 83' Hurst Olds with 13K on the odometer with the rare sand grey interior for 13K and some change. This was 10 years ago. Completely factory stock down to the belts, hoses an Eagle GT's. The same car now should bring 14-15K to the right buyer.
Based on your pics, it looks like the previous owner had a passion for Oldsmobile and didn't cut corners. My guess is that the investment made by the previous owner is greater than his asking price. Before buying you need to decide if having a factory correct HO or one customized by someone else is what you ultimately want. What's underneath has a lot to do with the car's value. Carefully inspect the chassis and body for evidence of sub par body work. It might look great until you get underneath it. Personally I like the stock look but to each his own. Either way, that car will definitely turn some heads. Let us know what you decide.
Based on your pics, it looks like the previous owner had a passion for Oldsmobile and didn't cut corners. My guess is that the investment made by the previous owner is greater than his asking price. Before buying you need to decide if having a factory correct HO or one customized by someone else is what you ultimately want. What's underneath has a lot to do with the car's value. Carefully inspect the chassis and body for evidence of sub par body work. It might look great until you get underneath it. Personally I like the stock look but to each his own. Either way, that car will definitely turn some heads. Let us know what you decide.
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I feel the engine UPGRADE is a win win. You'd only get tired of that weak 307 in a short time. And the fact that Olds 455s are torque monsters will make you glad you bought it. Just go for normal sized wheels, those ones look stupid on a G body.
Ribbedroof, agreed. Other than the GNX, I think the collector market for G-Bodies will be for well-done restomods with updated mechanicals.
I agree totally. A numbers matching G body (excluding GNX) being highly valuable to anybody,is a fantasy. They have they're best value because they're the last everyday common rear wheel drive midsized cars that have an unlimited potential for upgrades. Just have fun with what you have and change whatever makes YOU happy.
Points well made and no offense taken by me at all. I agree that it's a way better car than a bone stock version. Much more fun potential -- so if it's what Qdub wants, it looks to be a decent buy. All I was getting at was that it's not really collectible as a 442 anymore. The same car could have been built from any Cutlass. There are only a handful of Gs with any future collector potential so I think in many cases it makes some sense to preserve them, or at least save the original parts. That's all I was getting at. My point was pointless🙂. They'll never be hemi 'Cudas or bring Yenko money. Who knows, maybe this one started as an abandoned shell. In that case the car was saved, not diminished.
Either way, it's still a nice car. Hope you work out a good deal, Qdub.
Awesome car and as bowtie mentioned it's worth the money that you're willing to pay for it. I'd say offer him 10k for it, and purchase it for his counter offer. 🙂
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