pontiacgp said:
As mentioned, the explaination of the mileage is simple if it was a GM test car as claimed. The suspension on that car appears to be stock ride height for any G-body.
1985 Grand Prix concept car?
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As mentioned, the explaination of the mileage is simple if it was a GM test car as claimed. The suspension on that car appears to be stock ride height for any G-body.
Not to get off the topic, but here's a nice 2+2
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/ct ... 10333.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/ct ... 10333.html
Thinking about it more and more, since GM had financial troubles, they started liquidating their private collection of vehicles. I do remember they ended up selling an LS6 S10 at Barrett Jackson. I'm sure that one call to the GM History offices with the VIN will get the story on that car.
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The rear seat braces aren't part of the F41 suspension package if that's what you mean? ....and they are there (I've actually never seen a GP without them):
Says on the auction that the reserve is not met. So he probably wants $20k-$25k. It's a sweet looking ride, but there is nothing all that special about it; nothing out of the ordinary. The nose is from another car, same with the spoiler. Nothing that really screams concept car.
Sorry gang.That was me a long time ago who asked. Been busy and life got a bit crazy.
Believe me,it's taken a hell of alot to research these cars. I made lot's of pestering phone calls and even asking people thru various/other forums who have been in the museum (it's not open to the public) about them. This is exactly the color combo and look of what I wanted to make for my project. Which is also why it got me started doing a bit of research on it.
See my post on "86 Brass Hat" elsewhere in the forum.
This is indeed one of the 2+2 concepts that were created as "style concept exercises" and given to a few select Pontiac upper management to drive. These were known as "Brass Hat" cars of course. Very little paperwork accompany these cars. You hit it right on the head about the VIN#...totally for company use. Kinda like Fords Exec program in the 70's which included one offs, show cars, custom painted cars for execs and of course movie and special use vehicles. All were returned to GM after use.
Three were created. One black one, and two maroon and grey (that copied the burgundy Monte SS at the time).
The "whale tail" is not that of a porsche 911 or any other car for that matter, but instead Formula Firebird spoiler glassed and fitted for the GP. Rumour has it the Petty family had more input on these cars that the areocoupe.When the car first came to be, it rode on the standard 2+2 wheel. The ZQ8 wheels were added later as it was procured to the museum. Don't know who decided it though. Here's a pic of the black one at the Talladega museum way on back.
More reading here.....
http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/200 ... ture8.html
Believe me,it's taken a hell of alot to research these cars. I made lot's of pestering phone calls and even asking people thru various/other forums who have been in the museum (it's not open to the public) about them. This is exactly the color combo and look of what I wanted to make for my project. Which is also why it got me started doing a bit of research on it.
See my post on "86 Brass Hat" elsewhere in the forum.
This is indeed one of the 2+2 concepts that were created as "style concept exercises" and given to a few select Pontiac upper management to drive. These were known as "Brass Hat" cars of course. Very little paperwork accompany these cars. You hit it right on the head about the VIN#...totally for company use. Kinda like Fords Exec program in the 70's which included one offs, show cars, custom painted cars for execs and of course movie and special use vehicles. All were returned to GM after use.
Three were created. One black one, and two maroon and grey (that copied the burgundy Monte SS at the time).
The "whale tail" is not that of a porsche 911 or any other car for that matter, but instead Formula Firebird spoiler glassed and fitted for the GP. Rumour has it the Petty family had more input on these cars that the areocoupe.When the car first came to be, it rode on the standard 2+2 wheel. The ZQ8 wheels were added later as it was procured to the museum. Don't know who decided it though. Here's a pic of the black one at the Talladega museum way on back.
More reading here.....
http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/200 ... ture8.html
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what's the story with the engine? looks like a stock 305, except for those headers. Are those some type of GM prototype, or are they aftermarket?
It's way too much. They call it a concept... but what is it. A stock gp with some wheels and one or two body mods. It isn't even radical, it's just stock. And the engine maybe makes 190hp. so there's 2 or 3 made? still doesn't justify the 18000$ starting tag.
Seems way overpriced for a prototype to me. It isn't even a concept, I doubt there was a huge project and managment on this thing. They just threw some neat parts on it from the bin, painted it, ran a few drag races for fun and gave it to the execs.
Seems way overpriced for a prototype to me. It isn't even a concept, I doubt there was a huge project and managment on this thing. They just threw some neat parts on it from the bin, painted it, ran a few drag races for fun and gave it to the execs.
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