2020 Corvette to START at $59,995.00 (price updated)

No such thing as a nice Blazer, an ugly embarrassment. Surprised it is that fast with only 495 hp, it must weigh 2 pounds. Curious if it can match the supercars in handling. Top Gear always hated American cars for their handling, it will be interesting to see the reviews.

The C8 weighs in at ~3300lbs and the CG is centred around the driver. This would be pretty impressive to drive especially with a sub-3 second 0-60.
 
I just watched this:

And then I watched this:

I am a C5 Z06 diehard being the most analogue of track oriented Vettes - but for what people had been asking for them they priced me out of the market for potential ownership. But, now with the base model C8 coming out at sub-60K?! Those C5 Z06s are about to be had for Cavalier money. I am not a fan of the C8 (yet) - but, why buy used? The market just fell out from under C4, C5, C6, and C7s.
It's also one of the reasons why my buddy ditched the C6 ZR1 for the 2019. I do think the C7 value will stay higher as it's the last front engine, rear drive model at the moment. Previous versions have been out powered and out teched.
The new one is like AMG dropped their 6.2 in a Ferrari, though. I think GM could have done better to set it apart from the euro, mid-engine styling mold.
 
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All the supercars are getting like Nascar. They're all baked out of the same mold, Corvette was just last to the party. Sometimes that's good, but sometimes that's bad. You can learn from others' mistakes, but then you're not innovating when you're the last dog in the race as far as the status quo. We'll just have to wait and see what they do with it. Recall too, this isn't a car they make 1/4 million per year. It's still a niche car, albeit halo car, for GM. They average in the 30,000-40,000 sales marks over the last several years. They didn't even break 10,000 sales until 1960. To wit, the 2010 Camaro resurrection had an initial expectation of 80,000 cars the first year to be considered viable. They hit over 129,000 for 2010 MY. That's about 3 years worth of Corvette sales.

I've heard they've revamped some teams at GM lately, i.e., they're not quite as beholden to the bean counters when it comes to performance stuff for their cars. Which is good, because that's one thing that GM has constantly done over the years. Engineers come up with something that could absolutely crush the competition, but the bean counters watered it down to save $$, then look at what you get.

There were rumors that they were torqueing the body too much and cracking the viewing window/back glass over the engine and production would be pushed back. I've still found no one to confirm this. Or they're just not talking. Apparently not an issue since they've rolled out the car and you should be able to start ordering soon. If it were true, that would be bad because the LT2 isn't that much of bad azz IMO. I don't think the engineers would have not seen this early on if that really was an issue.

I remember in 2011 when I was at the big Oshawa Camaro bash homecoming at the GM assembly plant when they unveiled the 2012 Camaro ZL1 (where I also learned from some of the old salts at the plant they were working on the Z/28 somewhere in the bowels of the plant). I was talking to Scott Settlemire (former Camaro assit. brand manager, then he was in charge of GM shows by that time, and one of the greatest "regular car guys" to work in GM upper management that I know of) and he asked me then on a side bar BS session, what would I think about a mid-engine Corvette?... I told him they'd have problems if they just dumped it on the public but if they hinted at it for a while, I think they could soften the impact where it wouldn't turn people off. Mid-engine protos weren't unheard of, but it was resistance by the masses...fast forward 8 years later and here we are!

As I said, I've never been a "Corvette guy", but this one...might just sway me to at least go try one out and I wouldn't mind paying for one of these.
 
Cannot wait until those 2010 Camaros start becoming the parts cars the '98-02s were.
 
Cannot wait until those 2010 Camaros start becoming the parts cars the '98-02s were.
Yes, naturally a 6.2 > 5.7, 5.3 or 4.8 that people are getting on the cheap now. What's not to love when displacement goes up?

Cool thing is, Ford and Chrysler don't have that to look forward to. So when they trash their cars, they're done. Nobody I know of is cannibalizing the newer Chargers/Challengers/Mustangs for their engines to live on in perpetuity. May be happening somewhere, but not around here. It's likely not a popular swap.

But then again, that is a drawback of the reliability factor for the LS increasing though, isn't it? There's still a LOT of 5th gen Camaro V8s still running around. I'm sure you could probably find those crappy L99s everywhere that you'd have to do a cam/lifter change on to be viable. But for whatever reason, LSA's are still commanding some big $$$. And probably will for quite a while. Not sure about the LS3s. We'll just have to wait and see.
 
Especially not at these prices: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...0.H1.Xhellcat+engine.TRS0&_nkw=hellcat+engine

24K is a third of the way to a brand new one.

This is more reasonable:

And if you are afraid of torque you don't have to pay for it:

For the adventurous among us get an LT1 (no, not the Gen 2):
 
I wish the designers for Corvettes did the same thing Porsche did with the 911, keep the look and just refine it.

first year of the Vette this is the 1953 Porsche 911

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2020 Porsche 911

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The 911 is a great car for sure but Porsche handicaps other cars in their lineup to keep the 911 on top. Having the engine behind the axle is less than ideal. They spend tons of time to make it perform like it does and it shows but still an inferior design when compared to mid mounted.
 
The 911 is a great car for sure but Porsche handicaps other cars in their lineup to keep the 911 on top. Having the engine behind the axle is less than ideal. They spend tons of time to make it perform like it does and it shows but still an inferior design when compared to mid mounted.

all I'm saying about the Porsche 911 is they kept the iconic look throughout the decades and I wish Corvette had done the same. There was no need for Corvette to start copying the European look starting with the C7
 

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