thats really gonna suck on my 11:1 motor with 3.73s.
oh well, It happens, its like 6$ a gallon in europe.
oh well, It happens, its like 6$ a gallon in europe.
Four dollar gas
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Yes we need more refinarys and to tap the untapped parts of Alaska & the Gulf. Some of "our" underground Gulf oil is going to end up getting tapped by our neighbors and then sold to us. This needs to be a Presidential issue since if its not its not going to be a high enough priority to the powers that be to ge addressed in the right manner and soon enough. And we especially us automotive enthusists are going to get royaly screwed. Give us taxpaying voters a chance to vote on it and this time the blindly green to the point of being stupid vocal minority will get out voted. We Americans NEED to get more vocal about this.
PS high compression even your static 11-1 is an efficiency/fuel mileage friend. Its the long duration cam that you will probably put with it that is not. Which (the cam duration) depending on your heads, machine work, power goals, and the rest of your combination may be required to make your 11-1 static work on pump premium. But not if everything is well thought out in advance and done right. Lots of people do and have done 11-1 static on 91 to 94 octane without detonation. And 3.73s can get good mileage as well, you just might need to combine them with 28 or 29" tires and say the 67% overdrive of a 200-4r. 😉
PS high compression even your static 11-1 is an efficiency/fuel mileage friend. Its the long duration cam that you will probably put with it that is not. Which (the cam duration) depending on your heads, machine work, power goals, and the rest of your combination may be required to make your 11-1 static work on pump premium. But not if everything is well thought out in advance and done right. Lots of people do and have done 11-1 static on 91 to 94 octane without detonation. And 3.73s can get good mileage as well, you just might need to combine them with 28 or 29" tires and say the 67% overdrive of a 200-4r. 😉
See this is why I am getting a motorcycle or a scooter. There is also this car with a 1bbl carb for 200 bux that I am going to scoop up. If it rans I can drive the hoopty. This also gives me an excuse to put a big block or high horse motor in my regal.
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Yes, and the next frontier to plunder will be Africa. After China I believe at some point we will move on to another country for cheap goods. Unfortunately, I see a continuance of made in USA goods moving abroad, so it isn’t going to stop, unless (maybe) we all realize it and the administration starts to step up for some change.
Also, I don’t believe we need more drilling or refineries, just to further plunder lands for our continued use of oil. At some point we just have to face it, wean ourselves off and find other sources of fuel (sustainable) and get them on-line as our further searching for oil is only a stop gap for the inevitable. We have known about this issue since the 70’s and have made little inroads to change and now all of a sudden we want things done NOW because everything is skyrocketing in price. Nobody wanted to hear President Carter’s grim outlook, but at least he was honest and told us straight. And ultimately we were complacent with the next administrations assurances, yet little happened to stem the tide we see today and knew would probably come (in fact i believe we relapsed due to our complacency). I was buying those fluorescent replacement bulbs back in 2001 time period when the local “blow out store” could barely sell them at .40 cents ea. I bought a very large amount for the whole house to last 10-20 years worth, considering their life expectancy. The point, few people at the time were thinking about energy savings when energy pricing was low. Of course I don't think people could see how quickly things can skyrocket and cause rippling affects.
The used Hybrids are coming into price range but I presume they will get scoffed up and most owners will keep them longer for their efficiency making fewer available. But there are some other immediate options (not absolutes). I have a VW grease gasser and a cheap little 93 Mitsubishi colt that avgs 37 MPG that I use most of the time. The older cars will just get less use these days.
Ultimately, I am HOPING to see someday that most houses will have solar for at least some of their energy (depending on multiple factors like proximities of the house to the sun etc…). I can see it becoming common place for new houses being built with a unit as standard if cost becomes less prohibitive. We recently contemplated and researched having a system on our house but ultimately it is too expensive to recoup the costs over the lifetime. We aggressively researched the new systems of solar film but you need a flat style metal roof and just the flat metal roof was more than twice the cost of a shingle roof to do it right and then add the respectable cost of the new solar technology. And the solar film technology is still a few years away from perfection yet, as they are just coming on line. We ultimately went with an (energy star rated for its reflectivity) aluminum interlocking roof and added a cold roof design that will be insulated, which our roof presently is not. And that was expensive but we thought worth it in the long run as it has a 50 year life and as an added advantage it is hurricane rated. Ultimately we will keep our present 2 family house as a rental and our next house we are definitely shooting for solar on it. So I am hoping for better technologies with lower pricing levels and a broader availability of state or government subsidized cost incentives.
Scooters are big sellers here in Texas, where the Suburban once ruled!! At 80 mpg, not bad. Twenty years from now your kids will be looking at the "ScooterForum.com".
I can't remember the last time I saw a Ford Excursion!! Those buyers were STUPID. Huge price, huge operating costs....you probably can't even give them away now.
I can't remember the last time I saw a Ford Excursion!! Those buyers were STUPID. Huge price, huge operating costs....you probably can't even give them away now.
Re: gas
Whats normal? About what the price was before the Iraq war.
For us that was around 60 cents per litre. Now we are at $1.15.
Once things in the middle east settle down, the stock market will too. Then you will start seeing the price of oil per barrel start to come down.
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Whats normal? About what the price was before the Iraq war.
For us that was around 60 cents per litre. Now we are at $1.15.
Once things in the middle east settle down, the stock market will too. Then you will start seeing the price of oil per barrel start to come down.
We will never return to the prices we saw pre- 9/11. The world has changed since then, and not just because of US domestic problems with Islamic Terrorists. The mass industrialization of China and India due to free market reforms in those countries has added a huge set of new markets for oil. These two countries are the ones with the largest populations, and now those populations are all ditching their bicycles, mules and scooters in favor of cars, trucks, and SUV's. Their factory outputs have risen by leaps and bounds, and those goods all need to be moved by truck.
It is important to note that about 10 years ago, it took approximately 15 years to get a business license in the nation of India. Ponder that for a moment. 15 YEARS!!!! Mass socialism had stifled the economy, and hindered economic growth. Finally, new blood came to power and saw the light, just like in China. Now, these two nations are rapidly moving from third world to first world status, and China may see economic and military parity with the US within 10-20 years. When this happens, things will shift again, and their growth will slow. They may not be able to manipulate the Yuan to the extent that they do now to get hard currency.
Next up, let's discuss the untapped wealth of Africa, the former Soviet Block, and South America. Why group them together? Well, here is my reasoning. All of them have great amounts of mineral wealth, vast amounts of land, and vast amounts of political corruption and instability. It is the political instability and corruption that has kept all of them from developing. The average person in any of these areas is no less intelligent than the average American, European or Asian. If they were able to get stable governments that would function reliably and fairly enough to permit foreign and domestic economic investment, they too would rapidly reach first world status. The same too can be said of Mexico. Instead, they get run by corrupt politicians who can be bought, as can any other civil servant-for the right price. This lack of stability and equal justice deters people from making an effort, and thus ruins these otherwise perfectly good parts of the world.
It is important to note that about 10 years ago, it took approximately 15 years to get a business license in the nation of India. Ponder that for a moment. 15 YEARS!!!! Mass socialism had stifled the economy, and hindered economic growth. Finally, new blood came to power and saw the light, just like in China. Now, these two nations are rapidly moving from third world to first world status, and China may see economic and military parity with the US within 10-20 years. When this happens, things will shift again, and their growth will slow. They may not be able to manipulate the Yuan to the extent that they do now to get hard currency.
Next up, let's discuss the untapped wealth of Africa, the former Soviet Block, and South America. Why group them together? Well, here is my reasoning. All of them have great amounts of mineral wealth, vast amounts of land, and vast amounts of political corruption and instability. It is the political instability and corruption that has kept all of them from developing. The average person in any of these areas is no less intelligent than the average American, European or Asian. If they were able to get stable governments that would function reliably and fairly enough to permit foreign and domestic economic investment, they too would rapidly reach first world status. The same too can be said of Mexico. Instead, they get run by corrupt politicians who can be bought, as can any other civil servant-for the right price. This lack of stability and equal justice deters people from making an effort, and thus ruins these otherwise perfectly good parts of the world.
Mexico is a strange situation. They have huge oil reserves that are untapped, which we could import. Their constitution forbids any foreign companies from taking any ownership rights to oil extracted from land or sea. Unfortunately Mexico doesn't have the money to develop these reserves without deep-pockets foreigners' help. So the oil sits, all because the leftists won't budge on the issue. Better to share in the profits than sell nothing.
Maybe the solution to our border problems then is annexation. We should just annex Mexico , then no one would be jumping the borders! I mean, it's not like their military could really resist us. Plus, we would have their oil reserves, and they would inherit a much less corrupt and more functional form of government. It's a win-win situation. Heck, half their population is trying to get in here anyways, why not just legitimize it? ( This is SATIRE for anyone who can't tell)
Also, you have to remember that OPEC also has influence on non-member states as well as those who belong. Were this not true, you would see other places with large oil reserves fully exploiting this resource and stabilizing prices.
But really, our current economic problems do not just stem from any one thing, but a large combination of geo-political changes as well as domestic policy problems. Everything from idiotic greenies who won't let us use our own resources to try and force us to think like them, to the emergence of large new markets, to the Clinton administration's policy chickens coming home to roost with the mortgage markets, to our own exportation of manufacturing jobs, to the economic power of the EU have all caused this.
Do we need to develop different energy resources? Yes we do, and we will in the long term. The research is already being done as many of the things I have posted prove. However, we can't just give up fossil fuels over night either. Due to the sheer mass of infrastructure we have that is based on Oil, it will take at least 20-30 years to wean ourselves off of it when a sustainable economy based on other things comes along. If a brilliant new 300mpg car, like the Aptera, actually comes to market today, it will not replace everyone's car tomorrow. Producing the hundreds of millions of cars we have in the current world fleet would take a long time. In the meantime, we would still need oil to keep the economic engine going. As much as I would like to see cheap solar replace much of our current grid power, it simply won't happen very quickly. Even if it were able to do it for 50% of the cost of the grid, it still would be a substantial capital outlay for many people to make all at once, so our current oil, Nuclear, coal and natural gas-fired plants would continue to be there for years to come. Don't think the government can afford to convert everyone either. It is not an endless resource and the money has to come from somewhere. We already pay too of our GDP out in taxes to begin with, we don't need to pay more.
Also, you have to remember that OPEC also has influence on non-member states as well as those who belong. Were this not true, you would see other places with large oil reserves fully exploiting this resource and stabilizing prices.
But really, our current economic problems do not just stem from any one thing, but a large combination of geo-political changes as well as domestic policy problems. Everything from idiotic greenies who won't let us use our own resources to try and force us to think like them, to the emergence of large new markets, to the Clinton administration's policy chickens coming home to roost with the mortgage markets, to our own exportation of manufacturing jobs, to the economic power of the EU have all caused this.
Do we need to develop different energy resources? Yes we do, and we will in the long term. The research is already being done as many of the things I have posted prove. However, we can't just give up fossil fuels over night either. Due to the sheer mass of infrastructure we have that is based on Oil, it will take at least 20-30 years to wean ourselves off of it when a sustainable economy based on other things comes along. If a brilliant new 300mpg car, like the Aptera, actually comes to market today, it will not replace everyone's car tomorrow. Producing the hundreds of millions of cars we have in the current world fleet would take a long time. In the meantime, we would still need oil to keep the economic engine going. As much as I would like to see cheap solar replace much of our current grid power, it simply won't happen very quickly. Even if it were able to do it for 50% of the cost of the grid, it still would be a substantial capital outlay for many people to make all at once, so our current oil, Nuclear, coal and natural gas-fired plants would continue to be there for years to come. Don't think the government can afford to convert everyone either. It is not an endless resource and the money has to come from somewhere. We already pay too of our GDP out in taxes to begin with, we don't need to pay more.
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