Generational Accomplishments

Younger millennial here

I will echo, the generational grouping is baseless and peddled by a group of news media people who are disconnected from real society.

If you go back to Greek or Roman times you can read about how the next generation of Greek youth are lazy, entitled, ect.

People really only want a few things and they are pretty universal. Food on the table, safe home life, good life for their kids, ect.

I don't know a single person my age that eats avocado toast and about half my freinds own houses. Only change I would say is the marriage rate is down but initial data says the divorce rate is down among the younger generaition so that's a bonus.

Get your face out of the paper or phone or whatever and talk to people in said age group you don't have respect for and you will likely see the more things change the more they stay the same and generational labels mean nothing in the real world.
 
And who created them?

Go take some more pain killers...

This started as a humorous musing... but responses like this one do raise a curious theme. There's a big narrative in the world today of "you made me like this" or "I don't have a choice" - and I'm not limiting that to one particular age.

I will say that in decades past, again irrespective of age, you didn't really hear that excuse being made like that.

Ok boomer

Nope. Personally, I'm X. But thanks for the compliment :banana:

Most millenials are working 12 to 14 hours a day trying to get by, while everyone else is ******** on them for no better reason than deflecting from their own dissatisfaction with the world at large.
Actually, that's a personal choice. And I'm not talking to keep up with cable TV or the latest phone.

Much like the 1850s, or 1920s, employers only have as much power as you let them. Prior generations fought for the power to unionize and stop workplace abuses. In Europe, at least western/northern europe, in many countries companies can be fined for trying to force you to do work from home/after hours. But here, it's a race to the bottom just rolling over. When you've got 5 24 year olds willing to do that 14hr day for every 1 that says 'no, work the 8-9 hrs and when I leave, I'll look at your email tomorrow' then of course you get what you have. But if employees really hated it, and refused to do it, then guess what? Employers can't fire absolutely everybody and have nobody at work.

For those who choose to work more as part of their lifestyle goal, well, again, thays also their choice...

Video games and cell phones w/social media KILLED them being active. We can’t even hire any young people anymore, they don’t want to work that hard, and they CANT leave they’re phones alone.

Usually, by an age of mid-teens a group starts to assert a collective identity, albeit with outsiders. It looks like that's what a geneat ion or two has chosen to be, except not taking accountability for themselves and owning it?

This generational mud slinging is pretty lame, and the people that do it only fuel the stereotypes. All generations have done it, it’s just way easier now to blast your opinion to the world.

Being born in 1982 I’m considered a millennial, but I sure don’t act like the average one. And as a parent now of two young children, I also realize it’s the parents that have the most control over what happens to the kids. Rather than worrying about their hair, making the most money, the cars or their hair, my parents focused on raising their two boys with a work ethic and a sense that everything is earned and nothing is given. I pay it forward by raising my kids the same way. sure, it’s easier to shove technology in their face but it’s not how I’m going to do it. They would rather be playing outside or in the garage than in front of the iPad. My wife and I receive compliments on their manners and behavior all the time. Is it the easiest? No. Are there things I would rather be doing? For awhile I thought yes, but now I wouldn’t trade that time for anything.

If you’re older and don’t like “kids these days”, take a look in the mirror.

What's the mudslinging? Just pointing out what's visible to the eye.

I find it curious that, 1) something which is half joking in its nature is met with such a raw nerve (look at what's touted as being accomplished) but 2) nobody from those groups actually DOES offer some type of cultural expansion/contribution of trying to leave a unique mark on the world? Instead, all i hear/see here is a "woe is me, you forced us to this" excuse...

I totally agree, it is mostly the parents failt the last few generat ions. To giving and lenient. Want to be they’re kids friend instead of parent.

And we come back to making excuses for them. Every group can cite something about their parents or their parents parents - heck, think about going to the lack of homemakers and a 2 income household. Kids still asserted themselves when coming of age and made their own way. Same thing when boomers also led the boom in divorces, in having kids see parents bring different partners in the home...nah, still this is hijacked...

Still waiting for an answer as to what these generations mark on society is going to be, other than its sounding like the blame generation :itchy:
 
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"....and in the end, they all die." - 69hurstolds

I'm an old bastage. But I don't hate on people that realize the successes that they earned for themselves. What I have no time for is those of ANY generation that feels that someone owes them a living. As a U.S. citizen, I truly believe that if you want to lead a free life, you have to pull your weight as best you can to get where you want to go financially or spiritually, or whatever. With freedom to succeed, there's also freedom to fail. If you can't do it because of physical or emotional situation putting in a low ceiling, then there are ways to get help to get where you want to go. But you need to be accountable for your own self/actions. Akin to learning how to ride a bike, you can get help with training wheels or someone holding the handlebars for a while until you get the hang of it. But then it's all on you. Crash a few times and it's ok. It sucks, but then you learn faster how not to crash. Earn it and you'll cherish it more. If no one ever takes their hands off the handlebars, you'll never experience failure, and then when it inevitably happens, you won't be prepared to handle it.

I ended up being more successful that my parents from a strictly $ standpoint. And I didn't have to work as hard to get there as my parents did. My mom and dad were the Leave it to Beaver era. We lived in a small mid-western town with core values typical of being neighborly, helping others out, and learning empathy for those not as fortunate. Sure, I did 11 years in the Navy in the Submarine Force. Tough work, but it was a valuable teacher. Sometimes it sucked, but I survived.

From a happiness standpoint, I'm not sure I'm any happier or not. My parents never bounced anything off the kids and kept us fairly shielded from any of their problems as to not put pressure on us. I always believed that parents usually want their children to have it easier and richer (not just $ richer) lives than they had it. I feel we were blessed to be able to at least be financially stable as to not worry much about money. Because as the root of all evil, it's also what greases a lot of wheels to get where you want to go. Without it, we wouldn't be planning a "vacation" (which is odd in retirement) next year. Or wouldn't have been able to buy a new car we didn't actually need. But the wife wanted it. We both worked our butts off on rotating shiftwork for years to get where we can finally be "lazy" and enjoy the fruits of our labor. And we're going to do it.

The problem I see today is just like the problem in every generation. The whiners/snowflakes/hippies/lazy/whatever name people, get all the press coverage because they're protesting something or trying to get in other people's face to change something or accused of being lazy, etc. The other folks working and contributing to society aren't getting the TV coverage or having their protests filmed on an iPhone *** or whatever posted on Facebook.

Without the millennials or boomers or Gen X's out there working together or building on the past work, we all wouldn't be enjoying a record stock market, and high per person productivity levels the way we have.

I have hope. Hope that one day, one of your young babies right now grow up and goes into nursing home care so that when I get there, someone will care enough about the older generation to help me wipe my butt when I need it most. 🙂
 
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Still waiting for an answer as to what these generations mark on society is going to be, other than its sounding like the blame generation :itchy:

I already told you: They are keeping this techo-machine running to keep pace with/ahead of the rest of the world.

I cannot do it, and won't try - however I can lead them, focus them, empower them, and treat them with an appropriate amount of empathy necessary to provide them with a sense of purpose.

A "Boomer" that cares is a dangerous person.
 
And we come back to making excuses for them. Every group can cite something about their parents or their parents parents - heck, think about going to the lack of homemakers and a 2 income household. Kids still asserted themselves when coming of age and made their own way. Same thing when boomers also led the boom in divorces, in having kids see parents bring different partners in the home...nah, still this is hijacked...


You can be empathetic without making excuses. Dismissing circumstances that you weren't raised with as 'excuses' is ignorant.
 
You can be empathetic without making excuses. Dismissing circumstances that you weren't raised with as 'excuses' is ignorant.
The "excuses" I reference are the "you made me this way' and not taking ownership of self improvement. Not challenges during upbringing.

Hopefully you can tell the difference between adversity and just claiming an excuse and making no effort
 
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