GM lover, i urge all of you now.

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78mali350 said:
personally if they get bailed out the unions have to go. toyota builds cars here and they have no problems without unions. they just treat their employees better. there is no reason the american companies could do that

Not where i used to work... NUMMI in fremont, CA treats employees like modern day slaves. Their policy is if u miss work u better be dead or on the hospital bed to be excused from a point.
 
I buy honda because I want the uaw workers out of a job, and to stop making retardedly high wages so thier fat wives can drive suvs and not work.
 
haha, x2 on that but it's really gonna suck when we gotta figure out how to get our Honda Ridgeline pickup to pull a car trailer, just as well throw a hitch on the G 😢
 
That don't help my trailer weighs at least 3000 :lol:
 
yeah but with the 250 horse 247 ft pound V6 going anywhere but downhill dosent sound too promising.
 
I agree that GM produced some losers in the 80's and 90's (pretty much anything designed after the G-body's). However, has anyone checked out their newer cars? The new Malibu, Cobalt, and Pontiac G's are really nice cars. Every bit as nice as their competition.

All cars from the 80's were crap. As much as everyone talks about how great the foreign cars are, where are all of the classic ones? You don't still see 80' Carollas or Civics on the road anymore. They rotted-out just like American metal of the day. They just did a better job of marketing. I know a guy with 325K on his Chevy, so some do last like the imports. That Nissan may have delivered alot of Pizza, but I am guessing that the Diesel Chevy has been to a few Construction Site, has been abused, and has probably worked alot harder in its life.

Drive around and look to see what is on the highway. If it is newer that the mid-90's chances are it is foreign. However, if it is older it is probably a GM. I once was arguing with a friend which was better Chevy or Ford. I won the argument by having him count 80's Cavelier's and Escorts for a week. There were 4 times as many Cavaliers on the road. Now compare that to 80's Toyota's or Nissan's. Let me know your results.

Why is it we give $750B to the banks without batting an eye, but we make the big 3 grovel for what amounts to 2% of that? They employ more people (directly and indirectly). If they fail this country is done! "As goes GM, so goes the nation".

If the government gets control of the auto industry like they want, say good-bye to the Camaro, the Mustang, and the Challenger. Do you really think they will see v-8 RWD enthusiast cars as viable? As much as I hate to say this as a card carrying liberal we need to save the auto industry from death and the government.
 
x2, and just a side note about American car's through the later 80's and 90's. Did everyone forget about the 3800 V6???? I've got 2 Olds 88's a 92 and a 96 with over 200k on the 92 and 350k on the 96. 96 is my daily driver and I drive it almost 500 miles one way to go get my daughter in minneapolis once a month. It still gets 30ish give or take on the highway. Never had to open the hood except for a timing chain once and regular maintenance. In my opinion GM has never made a more reliable motor then this and they still use it to this day.
 
I buy American cause I want my fellow Americans to work
then you need to buy a honda, subaru, or toyota since the big 3 build most of the cars in canada and mexico.
 
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