Key not turning over engine...84 Monte Carlo
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Does the tilt need to be in a certain position to aim and hook that rod piece correctly to the bracket radius ?
Stay with the wiring for now we can tackle the column later.
Try disconnecting that purple wire from the white wire try to verify it is the 12Ga purple coming from the firewall connector and touch (since we are not sure what is what just touch it briefly and see what you get) it to the red wire in the connector (+12V). If the starter cranks just splice it to the rest of the purple wire going into the connector and eliminate the pink and white and what ever goes to that relay.
If you are not sure of something ask more questions.
Try disconnecting that purple wire from the white wire try to verify it is the 12Ga purple coming from the firewall connector and touch (since we are not sure what is what just touch it briefly and see what you get) it to the red wire in the connector (+12V). If the starter cranks just splice it to the rest of the purple wire going into the connector and eliminate the pink and white and what ever goes to that relay.
If you are not sure of something ask more questions.
I cut the ends of the purple wire and reattached the purple wire altogether and jumped the red and purple wires, and it cranked of the engine/bumped the starter...
I had a feeling the purple wire had connectivity, glad you were able to make things go OK.
Ok, so I'll throw in a connector to connect the purple wire back together and that should fix my starting issues with the key... Greatly appreciated guys ❤..
So now, how do I reattach this ignition actuator rod, to completely fix my key ignition problem ?
Do I need to dig into the column assembly behind the lock plate or can I reattach it without digging behind the lock plate ?
I don't think you can get that rod back in like it originally was. I would try anyway even if it is not completely engaged in the rack gear it should still turn on and start. When you turn the key on and start the engine that rack gear is pushing against that rod, even without proper engagement it should still do this.
It has to pull the rod back to turn it off that's where you might run into trouble. Might have to reach under and pull the rod back.
Slide it back in, use the key to see if you are getting close to proper, it should push against it. I would have a piece of tape handy so when you get it close enough you can tape it to the steering column body so it doesn't get to squirrely while putting the switch in. Install the ignition switch, put a little load on the switch while tightening the screws on the switch so the rod is fairly tight in there.
See what happens. Try tilting the column through its various positions stop on each and work the key.
If you do get it back in the ignition switch might need to be loosened a little and slid back toward the key to keep that all aligned.
If that does not work it is into the column one goes.
It has to pull the rod back to turn it off that's where you might run into trouble. Might have to reach under and pull the rod back.
Slide it back in, use the key to see if you are getting close to proper, it should push against it. I would have a piece of tape handy so when you get it close enough you can tape it to the steering column body so it doesn't get to squirrely while putting the switch in. Install the ignition switch, put a little load on the switch while tightening the screws on the switch so the rod is fairly tight in there.
See what happens. Try tilting the column through its various positions stop on each and work the key.
If you do get it back in the ignition switch might need to be loosened a little and slid back toward the key to keep that all aligned.
If that does not work it is into the column one goes.
I've tried since yesterday to align it...
The rod only pushes forward towards the engine when I turn the key towards me sitting in the drivers seat, opposite of starting it, accessory... But turning the key over to start it doesn't move it at all, and if I pull the rod forward to see if it locked into place, it comes right back out.
I see the track where its supposed to go in, just seems like I can't slip the rod end behind the bracket and on to the bracket radius... Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the tilt rod sits above the ignition actuactor rod..
That's what that looks like inside the column. The other rod is to the headlight dimmer switch.
If you have to go into the column your going to need a few tools, steering wheel puller, lock plate depressor, snap ring pliers and a way to pull the pins. If your column is loose (the whole tilting part of the column moves around) then your going to need E8 torx socket to fix that. I think everything else is just common tools.
There is a nice write up on the GM tilt column on this site let me see if I can find it.
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