My recent negative Summit Racing experience

Around here they are referred to as "Scummit". Myself I don't use them much but I did have an issue last week. I needed a rare part and Motive Gear sold it only though Summit. It was almost $100 but I had no choice. To get free shipping I added a few small things to get over the free shipping threshold. Lo and behold several days pass and the order is cancelled. It seems Motive ran out of stock and will not get any more. FWIW Motive does not "make" anything- they are a distributor. Anyway I was worried that since the order was cancelled I would be charged shipping now on the other items. No, I got a full refund and free shipping anyway. I can't complain.
 
Sorry for your troubles. For me, I can't say I've had any problems with Summit. I've never had to return anything either though.
 
I've personally never had any issues with Summit. But with any company that deals with thousands of people per week/month/year, the law of averages will eventually catch up with you. When you rely on more people "in the chain" there's a bigger chance of something going wrong, especially with the shipping companies, too. As stated, the true test of a company that cares about their customer base will try to make it right when things go wrong. Any vendor who doesn't, really doesn't care and they'll never see another dime of my money when they don't. A principle kind of thing. I won't willingly and knowingly fund bad behavior (but I must pay taxes to the government, but not willingly, so....).

There's also the scammer ******* customers out there. Order a part, complain, put their used part back in the box and get a refund. Some succeed, too. What a crock. *ssh*les. Why do good people get cancer and these dicks don't?

I can also say that I've never had issues with NAPA, or RockAuto, or O'reilly's or Advance when having to order anything. Not saying I never will, but so far, so good.

I do use Amazon a lot for a variety of stuff, once I find it's the less expensive route shopping around. In fact, I ALMOST had an issue with Amazon once. It was the vendor's fault. My wife gardens a lot and she's always "losing" or breaking her little dirt digging tools. So I bought her 3 one-piece tough, polymer hand trowels. They sent 2 of those PLUS an iPhone 5 case. (We had iPhone 6's then went to X's). I'm like, WTF? So I contact Amazon on what to do next. I followed their instructions on sending back the mucked up item. They immediately credited my account right away. Kept all the receipts from the shipping and all that, got the receipt thing. Thought that was that. Lo and behold, I got an email about a month later saying if I didn't return the trowel they were going to re-charge my credit card. Blood started heating up when I read that. WTF??? I contacted them again, and then gave them all the tracking numbers and such from their return instructions, and explained how someone sent an iPhone case instead of a trowel, and that I had done my part. They apologized and said it was done. Never got bothered with it again.

And then just the other day, I ordered two of something from Amazon, but UPS had the box that arrived damaged- that's why I saw him run back to his truck and speed off. They usually ring the doorbell when dropping packages. I got only 1 of the 2 identical items I ordered and another item and some packing air biscuits. The bottom AND top of the package was busted open. But I consider it originated with Amazon packaging. 3 small but heavier items in an oversize box with a handful of air puffs. Disaster when put in the hands of UPS. Had they packed it securely, I don't think it would have happened.

But I digress. This is about Summit. When you think about it, they still have a fairly good track record of getting you the stuff you want fairly quickly. Although I realize they're probably not as hungry as they once was to make sure snafus were handled promptly.
 
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I've not had any issues with Summit, but I have noticed some kinda odd stuff with my past few orders. My orders usually ship from the Tallmadge store and I get them in a day or two, but the last several things I've ordered have shipped from their Texas store and have taken a week or more to get here.

On the subject of shipping, I don't know what the **** is going on with UPS. They used to be the best, at least for me, but they have been awful lately. I had a lost package and several damaged packages. I've never liked FedEx, they've always been the slowest and they decided to hold on to my pistons for 4 days at a distribution center that was literally 10 miles from the delivery address. In recent history, USPS has been the best for me. Their priority flat rate boxes are hard to beat.
 
Sucks to hear this, not a good sign. I have bought a lot from them. Only a few things are cheaper from Amazon up here. As far as stock replacement parts, Rock Auto is much cheaper but as said, you just have to watch the shipping. Honestly Summit to Saskatchewan is nearly identical for shipping compared to Rock Auto, so RA wins.
 
I've not had any issues with Summit, but I have noticed some kinda odd stuff with my past few orders. My orders usually ship from the Tallmadge store and I get them in a day or two, but the last several things I've ordered have shipped from their Texas store and have taken a week or more to get here.

On the subject of shipping, I don't know what the **** is going on with UPS. They used to be the best, at least for me, but they have been awful lately. I had a lost package and several damaged packages. I've never liked FedEx, they've always been the slowest and they decided to hold on to my pistons for 4 days at a distribution center that was literally 10 miles from the delivery address. In recent history, USPS has been the best for me. Their priority flat rate boxes are hard to beat.

I am biased because my parents used to work at the USPS, but overall how quickly they get things places is hard to beat especially for the price. UPS is what most use and I am not usually happy with them because of the damage and such. Fed Ex is a complete joke, something ships from Ohio goes to Kentucky to go back to Ohio to come to Pennsylvania. No wonder it takes so long to get stuff.
But USPS is the worst to deal with when something goes wrong for sure, I ordered a cheap watch a few years ago and it was marked as delivered but never got to my house. Pretty sure they left it at the street below since they have the same house number, but they swear it was correctly delivered and I got tired of fighting over a cheap item. Last week walked up to my porch to find two heavy boxes from a pet store that is probably cat litter, what a surprise it is the same house number on the street below and has been sitting there since waiting for them to come get it.
 
Summit has always been really good to me. Military discounts, outstanding sales and customer service (including warranty/returns, make sure you have a water-tight case - the number of half-wit scammers and entitled shitbirds they must have to deal with on the daily has to be staggering (Summit's staff probably have PTSD from dealing with all the stupid)), and offering international returns.

This time last year UPS lost a fabricated steel bumper for my wife's Colorado. Summit reversed the charges, submitted the claim to UPS, and DISCOUNTED the part when they replaced it for the inconvenience. Remember: It isn't just what you say to someone, it is how you say it.
 
Remember: It isn't just what you say to someone, it is how you say it.
Don't forget the WHEN you say it. If you're a vendor and you're apologizing up front for any issues that are in your pervue, it makes a difference. If you start saying your sorry 3 months later, those words just don't ring true at that point. A customer comes to you to help solve his/her situation in a timely manner and at a fair price. Never forget that. If you cannot help them resolve their situation, they'll find someone who can. Apologizing and trying to make things right EVENTUALLY won't cut it. Get on it, stay on it, and make the customer feel that you resolving their problem is the only thing that matters to you. And at that moment, it should be.
 
I have been using Summit for almost two decades and had several warranty issues, returns or exchanges. I never once had an issue, always used their return label and either received a replacement item or a refund (depending on my choice). They were also responsive when I called about a problem. I did and still do spend quite a bit of money buying from them and I am sure they can see that when they process my order or I contact them; not sure but maybe that makes a difference and they want to keep me as a customer. And as previously mentioned, I don't buy the Summit brand, I buy name brands only.
 
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