Obama's Fuel Efficient Car of the Future-Video!

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I didnt understand thier concludtion
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Not a single automaker currently meets 2016 standards for fuel economy. In passenger cars, only Toyota and Honda, who have larger fleets of fuel-efficient cars are less than 10 MPG away from the proposed standards. This means companies will either have to radically alter their lineups, reduce the production of vehicles we actually want to drive, or invest heavily in alternative propulsion systems at a time when their capital is severely constrained. Good luck with that! Appliance vehicles, here we come!
In there artical they list VW, toyota, suzuki, subaru, nissan, Mitsubishi, Mazda, Kia, Hyundai, Honda, GM, and Ford in their artical as being less then 10 mpg Distance from the 2016 Fleet Fuel Economy Rating... so how did they come up with only toyota and honda?
 
They came up with it by using the 39mpg figure. If you look at the math it is accurate. Also , remember that Toyota and Honda are the pioneers in the land of Hybrids. Honda's original Insight was the world's first hybrid vehicle, (Toyota's Prius was second) and still holds the record for production hybrid fuel economy and aerodynamic efficiency.
 
85 Cutlass Brougham said:
They came up with it by using the 39mpg figure. If you look at the math it is accurate.
Ok the fleet has to get to 39mpg

As written
Ford
2009 Fleet Fuel Economy Rating: 31.1 MPG (excluding foreign import)
Distance From 2016 Fleet Fuel Economy Rating: -7.9 MPG
39 (2016 standard) - 31.1 (current ford fleet rating) = 7.9
7.9 is less then 10 so agian maybe i'm missing it :?
 
Did anyone hear Becks fill-in call for a ban on fat people?

Essentially we need to outlaw pastries, and cut pastry production in half, since they are causing the people to be fat. And of course fat people use more energy and are killing the planet, so we must stop them. That means going right to the source - no more pastries! And all fat people must fit in new height/weight standards in 2 years... to save energy and the planet of course!
 
A friend sent this to me in a recent discussion about fuel and the current efficiency (better to be called inefficiency) of the internal combustion engine... if what is said is true then it may just be the missing link that allows us to keep the power but get the reduced emissions

MCE-5 VCR-I Engine

Tony_SS said:
Did anyone hear Becks fill-in call for a ban on fat people?

Essentially we need to outlaw pastries, and cut pastry production in half, since they are causing the people to be fat. And of course fat people use more energy and are killing the planet, so we must stop them. That means going right to the source - no more pastries! And all fat people must fit in new height/weight standards in 2 years... to save energy and the planet of course!
WOW... now that’s some crazy logic
 
CaStylin said:
A friend sent this to me in a recent discussion about fuel and the current efficiency (better to be called inefficiency) of the internal combustion engine... if what is said is true then it may just be the missing link that allows us to keep the power but get the reduced emissions

MCE-5 VCR-I Engine

Tony_SS said:
Did anyone hear Becks fill-in call for a ban on fat people?

Essentially we need to outlaw pastries, and cut pastry production in half, since they are causing the people to be fat. And of course fat people use more energy and are killing the planet, so we must stop them. That means going right to the source - no more pastries! And all fat people must fit in new height/weight standards in 2 years... to save energy and the planet of course!
WOW... now that’s some crazy logic

Beck's fill in was in all likelihood trying to illustrate a point and not actually support such a position in reality. However, there ARE things in the works to essentially do just that. New York, for example, has just levied heavy taxes on fast food, snack food and soft drinks because it is unhealthy and....let's face it... they need all the money they can get to pay for their bloated social programs. There are also environmentalists who want to levy heavy taxes on meat, particularly beef. This is to ostensibly lower greenhouse gas emissions due to cow farts, but it is not inconceivable that they are also using it to push a vegetarian lifestyle on those who do not wish to adopt it.
 
Did you check up the MCE-5 VCR-I Engine? what ya think?

Also the cow thing has been pushed by lobbyist vegetarian and humane societies for a long time now, IMO it’s nothing new and they also forget that the eco product of cows is what we feed our vegetarian crops with. Eliminating or even taxing the cow would destroy two industries at once or lead to a over increase in the price of both meat and vegetables
 
It's a unique take on the variable compression ratio engine that has been in development for about 20 years or so. The thing that remains to be seen is the reliability of the system, as well as the overall effect that it has on reciprocating mass.

A bit off the subject, but one of the fundamental things to think about is just what powers a car. At it's essence, it is energy. Gasoline, Electricity, hydrogen, compressed air, a clock spring, etc. are all forms of energy storage. However we choose to power the cars of the future it will always require energy. The ultimate question then becomes what is the most efficient storage medium for that energy once it is produced. Efficiency is not only about power output, but about weight and size as well. To me, batteries are not an efficient medium for storage as they sit now. They are very heavy and require lots of space, and are not cheap either. For instance, take the Tesla roadster. It is based on the Lotus Elise, but manages to weigh 1,000lbs more than it's gasoline counterpart (if memory serves). So, while it may be a supposedly green alternative, it is not a practical solution due to the effect weight has on vehicle dynamics-especially handling and braking. It does accelerate better than the Elise, but in every other metric it is inferior. Well... except for fuel cost. Then again, it costs 2-3x as much as the Elise, so you really don't save anything.
 
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