Please help me out,86 regal failed Smog,Pic of results!

[85 Cutlass Brougham]

The green wire goes nowhere. I have never seen it connected on any G body, maybe it's a diesel thing?

As for the carb, yes. It's time for a rebuild. Miles are not the important thing here, age is. Paper gaskets do not last for 25 years without issues. Have it done by a pro and they should be able to get it working right.

The part with the wires and vacuum lines is probably part of the cruise control, but it might not be. I can't find it in the manual right now, but I will look later when I have more time.

Oh, and the MAP sensor is behind the overflow tank and in front of the A/C box on the passenger's fender well. It's a small black box that's about 1X3 or 4 inches in size, and about half an inch thick. It should have a 3 wire plug and a vacuum line going into it.It's right in back of that blue and gold thingie with the 2 wires coming out of it.

The aluminum pipe is not a problem. It's a part of the cold start emissions equipment and it ducts hot air into the air cleaner assembly on cold days. If it is not there, it will not cause your problem.

 

[8T7SS]

smog

86LL, The carb does in fact need an overhaul!!!! Judging from from the gunky build up around the top section. The black sticky stuff is not helping you. I think maybe just cleaning it off may make it run a little better! 2 or three cans of carb clean should do the trick. Spray the cleaner right at the choke plate while feathering the throttle to keep it running. The cleaner will most likle stall it if ya spray to much. Spray the sides and the secondaries also. After you spray it down I would take it off and take it apart and rebuild it. I looked a while ago for a customer for a carb similar to that one and it was around 3 or 4 hundred so rebuild what ya got. The one pic from the left side shaws leaking of fuel down the side. 85 Brougham is correct the paper gaskets don't last and your carb really needs it! once you get the carb off the front of the carb on the base plate there is one on the left and one on the right. you have to cut the base plate to expose the screws. they covered them up cuz the mc sol was doing the work now. I'll tank a picture of on and Email ya (need your e mail address)

The green wire I'm not sure but I'll see if I can find out for ya on Mon


The Cruise is in the front. that box you circled I could not tell by the photos you posted.

look for any vacuum lines that are broken also and you might want to go get some different size lines cuz they are goung to break when you take the carb off.

 

[JESSE]

carb

the green wire is where you can connect a dwell meter to adjust the m/c dwell

i don't want to rain on your parade, this carb is a ccc and reguires a lot of special tools and skills to make it work properly...if you have never overhauled a carb this is not the one you want to learn on

if you have to pass a smog test to be able to drive the car imo your better off taking it to a shop and let them fix it for you,and finding someone who has the skills is by it's self is going to be hard enough

i would be willing to say that on this site there less than a hand full that knows what the paddle travel should be set at or what the dwell setting is?

the reason the reman carbs cost so much is because of the parts in them, an they still have to be adjusted ...... just my .02...jesse

 

[86laidlow]

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I think im just gonna go ahead and get a newly rebuilt carb,and sell the one i have for parts. Im looking at some on ebay,is this a good one for me?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Ac ... 240%3A1318

or this one? this one is a e4mc,would this work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ROCHESTE ... QQtcZphoto

 

[dan2286]

You need the second one. The first one is for non computer controlled cars. That really does not seem like a bad price either.

 

[86laidlow]

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Also someone recommended that i simply take the belt that drives the smog pump,you think that will work and trick them smog monkeys?

 

[dan2286]

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Also someone recommended that i simply take the belt that drives the smog pump,you think that will work and trick them smog monkeys?

Why would that help?

 

[8T7SS]

don't remove the belt!! That helps the reduce the emmisions!
Do go with the second carb you found on ebay. The E4MC model. May want to call the place to find out if is all set to bolt on or will it need to be adjusted after you install it ?? :wink:

 

[85 Cutlass Brougham]

In The People's Republic of California, removing the smog pump belt will be an automatic failure of your emissions test. They may even decide to send you to a "Re-Education Center", where you will be subjected to 24-7 brainwashing via video's of Al Gore giving speeches on Global Warming, with electric shocks for those who refuse to conform.

 

[86laidlow]

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Hey guys,just got my new carb,im gonna install it and need to know if there is anything i should do before and after installing it?also should i use sealant in between the gasket and carb? and should i adjust any of the levers that drive the throttle or float?