Still feeling patriotic? read this
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Just for your info pencero, military servicemen are not gov't employees. We swear to uphold/protect the Constitution of the US, we do NOT swear fealty to the govt. We serve the country, and we give up a lot of right s to do so.
we still care about our bodies, we still care about what happens to it after death.
and i'm sorry, but if you and your family have never served in the military, how can you judge us? You know nothing of what military life. I do not mean this as an insult!
and again, why is it that if someone disagrees with you, it HAS to be part of a conspiracy?
we still care about our bodies, we still care about what happens to it after death.
and i'm sorry, but if you and your family have never served in the military, how can you judge us? You know nothing of what military life. I do not mean this as an insult!
and again, why is it that if someone disagrees with you, it HAS to be part of a conspiracy?
I didn't judge people for being in the military. If I do any judging, its on an individual basis - I freely volunteered that I didnt serve in the military or have family involved either. The government dictates how much money to spend on defense and the DOD is part of the process in determining a soldier's salary - how is a military personnel not a type of government employee?
There was definitely a conspiracy to mislead people here, and now theres a new one to try and make me look bad and draw attention away from the story. I'm not going for it. Have at the sausage fest quadruple teaming the only person with a moral compass about the issue. I'm sure you are right and the military will make it very uncomfortable for anyone who continues to push this issue and shove a large settlement down their throat to pay them quiet so who cares right? For some guys who brandish large weapons and drive manly vehicles I'm surprised at the lack of ethics here.
There was definitely a conspiracy to mislead people here, and now theres a new one to try and make me look bad and draw attention away from the story. I'm not going for it. Have at the sausage fest quadruple teaming the only person with a moral compass about the issue. I'm sure you are right and the military will make it very uncomfortable for anyone who continues to push this issue and shove a large settlement down their throat to pay them quiet so who cares right? For some guys who brandish large weapons and drive manly vehicles I'm surprised at the lack of ethics here.
because, like i said, we do NOT serve the government. we serve the constitution.
here's the oath we take.
"I, _____, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. (So help me God." )
yes, we have to obey the orders of the President, and those above us in the chain of command,(UNLESS it goes against the Constitution, or if it is immoral.) but the military is NOT part of the executive, legislative, or judicial branches. but yes, our budget and orders come through them. a little confusing i know.
this is judging
con·spir·a·cy
1.the act of conspiring.
2.an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
3.a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.
4.Law . an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act.
5.any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.
notice that all definitions require people to formulate some plan before time? we just disagree with you. we aren't PMing each other asking how we will respond to your posts. frankly, you aren't worth the time!
It's misleading because people didn't ask for specifics? When they can't ID a dead person they become a John or Jane Doe and if the person wasn't a murder victim they cremate it and dump the ashes (probably in the dump) would be my guess. Same thing with bio waste as megalodon said a finger or a foot or a chunk of meat isn't a person especially if they don't even know what person it came from. If people didn't ask that's their fault... I'm sure they could have had the ashes if they wanted them but they signed off on the military disposing of them so I don't see whats the big deal about them dumping the ashes in a land fill.
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you think you are that important that we need to conspire to make you look bad?... you actually do a much better job of making yourself look bad than I think anyone could do for you
it has been pointed out to you time and time again that none of us condone anything that was not properly done. So please show me where there is any lack of ethics of any of us, not including yourself of course.
now there's your proof of there not being a conspiracy! kornball and i usually disagree (amicably) and here we don't. 😀
When you're digging a hole and the water starts coming in, best move is; (Multiple Choice}pencero said:
A. Continue to dig, hey I might get to China and dump the water there before I drown!
B. Stop digging and hope I'm rescued. (Ah, that doesn't seem likely at this juncture.)
C. Stop digging, climb out, admit the whole project, while well meaning of you, was a bad idea.
Hint, the correct answer is (C)
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